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***Update***
19 June 2009;
The new 2009 Smart Parts Impulse
On June 16th 2009 PBL got to see the latest marker out of the Smart Parts camp which is now the most coveted marker in the industry. Only a select few have had a chance to look at it so far and PBL will be the first to sell it. Do you want to own it first? Then come to the CXBL's Event 3; The Border Battle, in Gananoque, Ontario July 4th and 5th. The first couple of Impulses will be on display and for sale in PBL's massive show trailer along with other great products.
Graham Easton, Smart Parts Senior Sales Executive, came to PBL to show all the staff what it can do. We learned about it, we held it and we shot it. The impulse got a heart transplant and wow, it's beating harder than ever! It shoots amazing! There is barely any kick, and it has ball on ball precision (even when missing a detent, like the one we were testing).
The main reason it shoots so well is because of its dual regulator system inside the grip. The dual regulation allows extremely low bolt force which makes the Impulse gentle on paint and lets it shoot without kick!
The Impulse has been reincarnated and you can be there for its rebirth on July 4th and 5th thanks to PBL and the CXBL!
And the beat goes on at PBL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2dylqJic0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpLLuuZX4nA
Very hot!!!!!!!!
Press Release:
Impulse – The Beat Goes On
Smart Parts unveils the all new Impulse professional tournament marker at Bitburg Millennium Series event.
Loyalhanna, PA – May 28, 2009 – The Classic Impulse was one of the most popular electropneumatic paintball markers ever produced. It found its way into the winner's circle in the hands of teams like the All Americans and Strange. Pros loved it for its performance and amateurs loved it for its price. Even though it has been out of production for several years, it remains a popular used marker due to its fast rate of fire, simple cleaning requirements and rock-solid reliability.
Now, the beat goes on. Paintball players at the 2009 MAXS European Masters paintball tournament in Bitburg, Germany were treated to the unveiling of the all new Smart Parts Impulse. Smaller, faster and smoother than its legendary predecessor, the Impulse is built to exceed the needs of today's professional tournament paintball player.
“The Classic Impulse was a phenomenally successful marker and players have been asking us to bring it back for some time,” said Smart Parts Vice President, Adam Gardner, “but we weren't going to do it until we could do it right. That all came down to perfecting a new valve and dual-regulation system that gives us the speed and gas efficiency players expect from a poppet valve marker, combined with the smooth kick-free shooting that we deliver in our best spool valve paintguns.”
True to its heritage, the Impulse is a stacked tube marker, but this isn't just a modification of the Classic, it is an all new marker with a more compact design, and numerous new features including:
* Pressure balanced poppet valve allowing 1700 to 1800 shots from a 4500 psi 68ci system
* Dual regulation allowing extremely low bolt force and eliminating kick
* Air buffered firing piston shoots smoother with less vibration
* Ultra-compact in-grip regulators reduce forward weight for improved balance
* Hose-free design eliminating common leak points
* Rechargeable lithium polymer battery powering the Impulse through approximately 100,000 shots per charge
* Hinged Vision eye covers open without tools for cleaning and aren't easily lost because they stay attached to the marker
* Volume chamber fore-grip eliminates shoot-down
* Modular body design allowing for fast repairs and mix-and-match color styling
* Freak compatible barrel system accepts bore inserts for changing paint sizes
* Trigger based programming with modes for all major leagues and scenario use
* Q-Lock feedneck quickly clamps and adjusts to all high performance hoppers
“The keys to the new Impulse design are its valve and regulators.” says Hans Semelsberger, Smart Parts' Director of Technical Sales. “Most poppet valves are pushed closed by the air inside, so when the pressure is right for good efficiency, you have to hit them pretty hard to knock them open, and that shakes the gun, throwing off your aim. Our pressure balanced valve lets the air pressure push forward and backwards on the valve core at the same time. Those forces cancel each other out and the valve opens easily regardless of the pressure inside. It's so soft, I can push it open with my little finger. Because the valve opens so easily, we are able to use two-stage regulation to drive the firing piston with very low pressure gas. That makes the Impulse gentle on paint, and lets it shoot without kick.”
With a suggested retail price of $999.00 US, the all new Impulse will be shown at the PSP Chicago Open in Bolingbrook Illinois, June 24th-28th, 2009, and will be available soon at Authorized Smart Parts dealers everywhere.
***The foregrip ISNT a regulator!!!***
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4455/09impulse1.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2469/09impulse2.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8269/09impulseinfosheet.jpg
Note the Luxe style grip frame, trigger, on/off and inline reg
Sundra
28-05-2009, 08:34 PM
It really is a shame its just an ego or an RX Cyborg would have been great to see some sort of closed bolt gun like the original shockers but obviously smaller, but this seems to be the way things are going at the mo.
liveandie
28-05-2009, 09:22 PM
looking nice
wonder what the pricing is going to be like?
cas if they over price then eg and cybrog will get more sales
also
wonder if you get afreak kit with it
that would be a nice extra
looking nice
wonder what the pricing is going to be like?
cas if they over price then eg and cybrog will get more sales
also
wonder if you get a freak kit with it
that would be a nice extra
As per the ad in the 1st post, price will be $999usd and I highly doubt it will come with a full freak kit stock as never the Luxe or the NXT did. And especially not for that price.
Souse
28-05-2009, 09:30 PM
I think it look cool
KBOMB
28-05-2009, 10:26 PM
I want that purple and black one. The matt black on the red looks sweet, but matt black and purple, or matt black and chrome..... mmmmm!
I hoping ill be about $1100 - $1300 here.
piphysplat
28-05-2009, 10:41 PM
Hmmm, I'm not sure about this one. I won't be selling my shocker to buy one just yet.
i wouldnt mind to give her a squeeze... if it shoots as good as the old impulse then it should be quite awesome to the max
loki32687
28-05-2009, 11:03 PM
I'm not completely feeling it...As much as I loved my impulse way back when. I don't understand why everyone is going crazy with the gas through grip crap now...Honestly, has macro ever been that much in the way? To be honest...If it were to fail I'd rather it fail on the outside of my gun rather than the inside....
Sundra
28-05-2009, 11:11 PM
Hmmm, I'm not sure about this one. I won't be selling my shocker buy one just yet.
Yep until i shoot one my shocker will stay.
Here's the FAQ from pbnation:
What barrel thread pattern does the Impulse use?
The same thread pattern that was introduced with the Classic Impulse. Because this is now the thread pattern used on all Smart Parts markers, it is now simply referred to as Smart Parts threading.
How much does the Impulse weigh?
Weight of the Impulse is approximately 2.1 pounds.
Can the Impulse be upgraded with a tapeworm mod?
The Tapeworm Mod was a popular upgrade for the Classic Impulse, however it is not necessary on the new Impulse because it already features dual-stage regulation.
If spool valves are so great, why make a poppet valve marker?
Some players like the feel of a spool valve marker, while some prefer a poppet. Regardless of their preference, all players are looking for performance – that's where the Impulse delivers.
Does the release of the new Impulse mark the end of the Shocker product line?
No. In fact, this new product release proves that the Shocker SFT and Shocker NXT were not the end of the Impulse.
Why is the Impulse pressure balanced poppet valve a big deal?
Most poppet valves are pushed closed by the gas used to fire the marker. At the pressure ranges needed to obtain efficient operation (in terms of shots per tank fill) these valves must be struck fairly hard in order to knock them open and fire a paintball. The balanced valve in the Impulse also uses air-pressure to counter-act the pressure pushing it closed. It opens with little force, regardless of the pressure it is holding back. The balanced valve requires so little force to open that on prototype marker one of our engineers was actually able to fire the marker by pushing the valve open with his little finger. Since the valve takes less force to open, the Impulse is not shaken by the recoil of a hard hitting heavy hammer or ram.
Is the small part sticking out under the Impulse barrel a volume chamber?
No. The fire valve housing is an integral part of the pressure balanced poppet valve. The tail end of the valve is exposed to outside air through a passage in the center of the housing. The difference in pressure between the gas inside the valve, and the outside atmosphere is what provides the balancing force for the valve.
What is the advantage of dual-stage regulation?
The best pressure for firing a paintball and getting maximum air efficiency is not necessarily the best pressure to drive the firing piston which closes the bolt and opens the poppet valve. By regulating these gas supplies separately, each can be optimized for its own function. The Impulse uses approximately 50 psi to drive its firing piston. Compared to competing brand markers that drive pneumatic rams or hammers at 120 psi or more, this pressure reduction means that the Impulse bolt does not strike paint as hard, nor does it cause appreciable recoil or kick. This ultra-low force piston is only possible with the combination of the pressure balanced valve and dual-stage regulation.
Where are the Impulse's regulators and how are they adjusted?
Both the primary and second-stage regulators for the Impulse are built into small rectangular cartridges housed inside the grip frame. They are adjusted using allen-wrenches through the Impulse control panel - a rubber panel on the back of the grip frame. The modular design of the regulators also makes them quite simple to remove, inspect and clean or repair.
If the regulators are in the grip frame, what is in the foregrip?
The Impulse foregrip is an over-sized expanded volume chamber for the pressure balanced poppet valve. It provides a buffering reservoir of gas immediately adjacent to the valve, to prevent velocity drop-off under rapid fire. The bottom of the foregrip also contains an integrated relief valve to protect the Impulse from over-pressurization in case of a compressed air system regulator failure.
Can an aftermarket regulator be screwed in place of the foregrip, bypassing the primary Impulse regulator?
No, the Impulse foregrip does not use an ASA connection to attach to the marker body. A customized adapter and additional modifications would be required to use a different regulator.
The Impulse has no hoses on the outside, but what about the inside?
The Impulse has no hoses on the inside either. Compressed air is routed through the regulators, grip frame and body via channels machined within the aluminum walls of those parts. A pair of stainless steel transfer linkages route gas from the grip frame into the body.
Why is the Impulse firing piston air buffered?
By restricting gas flow vented from the firing piston, an air pressure buffer is created, slowing the piston and bolt as they near the end of their stroke. By slowing these parts, rather than letting them slam to an abrupt halt on impact with the valve, recoil is further eliminated from the Impulse's firing cycle.
What kind of HPA system should be used with the Impulse?
The Impulse will perform optimally with a compressed air system delivering between 600 and 900 psi. “Low-Output” compressed air systems outputting 400 psi, are not recommended, as they may not react fast enough to maintain consistent pressure under high rates of fire.
Will the Impulse run on CO2?
The Impulse was designed from day one to run on compressed air only. The integrated relief valve that protects the Impulse from HPA regulator failure also protects it from the pressure spikes related to CO2, so although the marker is not designed for CO2 use, it is protected from CO2 related pressure damage.
Why is an integrated relief valve important?
Increasingly, compressed air system some manufacturers (not Smart Parts) save money by neglecting to include output-pressure burst disks or relief valves in their products. If such an unprotected air system should develop an internal leak, it could deliver full tank pressure to a marker. The Impulse's built-in relief valve protects the marker's solenoid valve seals and other components that could otherwise be damaged by over-pressurization.
Does the Impulse use a spoopet valve?
No. The Impulse has a pressure balanced poppet valve. Internet rumors have suggested that Smart Parts was soon to release a marker with a valve that was a hybrid of spool and poppet valve designs. These rumors were not true. The Impulse is a poppet valve marker. Although it is not a spool valve, the new Impulse valve core does share a feature in common with the some Smart Parts spool valves designs – a tail. The tail end of the valve core is exposed to the outside air, the same as the pin end. This allows the gas pressure in the Impulse valve to press equally in both directions, resulting in a balanced valve that requires very little force to open.
Is the Impulse compatible with integrated air accessories for the Luxe from DLX Technology Group?
No. Although the Impulse bottom-line ASA and optional drop spacer rail work similar to those components on a Luxe, placement of their air ports is different, due to the requirements of the regulators placed within the grip.
Is the Impulse battery strong enough to get through a full weekend of paintball?
That really depends how much you shoot in a weekend. A fully charged Impulse battery will power the marker for approximately 100,000 shots under optimal conditions.
How long does it take the Impulse battery to charge?
Approximately 20 to 30 minutes. Charging time is affected by temperature, and battery discharge level.
What if there isn't time to charge the battery?
A second Lithium Polymer battery is included with the Impulse, and the battery side of the grip frame features Smart Parts quick grip snaps. The grip can be opened almost instantly without tools, and the low battery exchanged for a full battery in a matter of seconds.
What countries will the Impulse charger work in?
The Impulse charger is designed for universal operation with 110 or 220 volt AC wall outlets in most countries of the world. Prong adapters may be required outside of the US, Canada or Mexico.
Does the Impulse have a “Cricket” board?
No, the Impulse uses trigger-based programming with multi-colored LED feedback through the power button on the rear of its grip frame.
Is the Impulse circuit board tournament legal?
Yes, the Impulse features firing modes specifically designed to comply with the rules of all the current leading tournament series, and can be upgraded by Smart Parts techs, in case of a rules change. Additional scenario and recreational modes such as multi-shot burst, and Billy Ball are also included. The Impulse features a tournament lock button on the circuit board, that prevents mode changes from being made on the field.
If the grip opens without tools for a battery change, can't a player open it to access the tournament lock during a game?
No. The left side of the grip opens with quick-snap connectors for fast battery changes. The right side is secured with button-head screws that require an allen-wrench for removal. The field-lock button is on the right side of the Impulse circuit board, and can not be accessed without tools.
What type of ball detents does the Impulse use?
Rubber nubbin style detents. The detents are located behind the Vision eye covers.
Why does the Impulse have a two-piece body?
The two piece body allows the electronics of the Vision anti-chop system to remain completely internal without bolt-on wire/eye covers, and provides machining access for the internal gas passages used by the Impulse's hose-free design. It also allows for some interesting parts color combination possibilities and unusual feature upgrades.
T-unit=BJ
29-05-2009, 01:26 PM
I like the look thats for sure
Must admit...looks sexy...wonder how well it shoots???
Must admit...looks sexy...
you'd think a splash annod stapler looks sexy Neil you slut. :whip:
JSC_Liason_neo
29-05-2009, 02:42 PM
ANS has them for $999, pre order
http://www.ansgear.com/Smart_Parts_2009_Impulse_Paintball_Gun_s/1474.htm
I'm not completely feeling it...As much as I loved my impulse way back when. I don't understand why everyone is going crazy with the gas through grip crap now...Honestly, has macro ever been that much in the way? To be honest...If it were to fail I'd rather it fail on the outside of my gun rather than the inside....
I have seen marcoline burst several times this year and twice seen the fittings just give out. If there ever happened to be a problem internally, it would a manufactor problem which should equal free fix/replace.
On saying that, I haven't heard on a single problem with the internal gas on the Luxe and I frequent the DLX forum on pbn every other day (and its 90% people complaining about a leak here and there or something else thats usually user error).
Royale
29-05-2009, 03:00 PM
I'm not completely feeling it...As much as I loved my impulse way back when. I don't understand why everyone is going crazy with the gas through grip crap now...Honestly, has macro ever been that much in the way? To be honest...If it were to fail I'd rather it fail on the outside of my gun rather than the inside....
Moving away from consumeables like macroline and batteries is the next logical progression for markers.
liveandie
29-05-2009, 03:21 PM
Moving away from consumeables like macroline and batteries is the next logical progression for markers.
NO batteries?
how make it solar power?
you'd think a splash annod stapler looks sexy Neil you slut. :whip:
Yes...but have you seen the latest from steadler?...man...electro stapler with fade ano and 37 sps (staples per second)...come on...who wouldnt get excited???? :eek::lol:
Royale
29-05-2009, 03:45 PM
NO batteries?
how make it solar power?
I mean normal batteries like Energizers/Duracells etc.
The Impulse comes with a rechargable li-ion bttery.
Anyways...not a fan of the LED's.
KBOMB
29-05-2009, 07:14 PM
Im not entirely convinced. Its like $1490, compared to a new ego8 imported for around $1000.
I have read alot of stuff today.
Ego8's are still lighter and just as efficent.
Replaceable parts compared to a machined body.
Low operating pressure for no kick.... seriously, since when did a paintball gun kick? Normal guns have recoil. Kate (my better half) is using a stock ego7, no zik, and she has never complained about kick. And she carry's out team!:p
I have a mini, its air through body via grip regulator and 2 piece manafold. Fair enough, no hoses and minimal parts. Putting the mini together is easy enough, but it has to be done perfect or its a disaster of a gun to use. Too much lube, or just not resetting the poppet every time results in blowback, chopping, erratic chrono figures ect...
I think that this gun would have a 1 way air channel groved out between regulators and rammer chamber. Before I invest im wanting to see what type of seals they are using and how it all comes apart. Low operating pressure and 1 small leak in the wrong spot (5-10psi), would mean that your guns preformance would suffer enormously.
Some american freak will buy 1 and youtube it soon enough..
Im not entirely convinced. Its like $1490, compared to a new ego8 imported for around $1000.
I have read alot of stuff today.
Ego8's are still lighter and just as efficent.
Replaceable parts compared to a machined body.
Low operating pressure for no kick.... seriously, since when did a paintball gun kick? Normal guns have recoil. Kate (my better half) is using a stock ego7, no zik, and she has never complained about kick. And she carry's out team!:p
I have a mini, its air through body via grip regulator and 2 piece manafold. Fair enough, no hoses and minimal parts. Putting the mini together is easy enough, but it has to be done perfect or its a disaster of a gun to use. Too much lube, or just not resetting the poppet every time results in blowback, chopping, erratic chrono figures ect...
I think that this gun would have a 1 way air channel groved out between regulators and rammer chamber. Before I invest im wanting to see what type of seals they are using and how it all comes apart. Low operating pressure and 1 small leak in the wrong spot (5-10psi), would mean that your guns preformance would suffer enormously.
Some american freak will buy 1 and youtube it soon enough..
Wow!!! Nice hate fest. The Luxe seems to work ok :hammer: and runs the air internally.......
KBOMB
29-05-2009, 07:28 PM
Wow!!! Nice hate fest. The Luxe seems to work ok :hammer: and runs the air internally.......
HAHAHAH! not hate, just questions.
I know you pull out an ego and use it without thinking about it.
I would hope this is the same. Just making sure.
And Im far from an ego representative as most will tell you.
Im probably one of few that dont think their the shiznit.
GAV WA
29-05-2009, 08:14 PM
Here's the FAQ from pbnation:
If spool valves are so great, why make a poppet valve marker?
Some players like the feel of a spool valve marker, while some prefer a poppet. Regardless of their preference, all players are looking for performance – that's where the Impulse delivers.
Does the release of the new Impulse mark the end of the Shocker product line?
No. In fact, this new product release proves that the Shocker SFT and Shocker NXT were not the end of the Impulse.
Why is the Impulse pressure balanced poppet valve a big deal?
Most poppet valves are pushed closed by the gas used to fire the marker. At the pressure ranges needed to obtain efficient operation (in terms of shots per tank fill) these valves must be struck fairly hard in order to knock them open and fire a paintball. The balanced valve in the Impulse also uses air-pressure to counter-act the pressure pushing it closed. It opens with little force, regardless of the pressure it is holding back. The balanced valve requires so little force to open that on prototype marker one of our engineers was actually able to fire the marker by pushing the valve open with his little finger. Since the valve takes less force to open, the Impulse is not shaken by the recoil of a hard hitting heavy hammer or ram.
Is the small part sticking out under the Impulse barrel a volume chamber?
No. The fire valve housing is an integral part of the pressure balanced poppet valve. The tail end of the valve is exposed to outside air through a passage in the center of the housing. The difference in pressure between the gas inside the valve, and the outside atmosphere is what provides the balancing force for the valve.
What is the advantage of dual-stage regulation?
The best pressure for firing a paintball and getting maximum air efficiency is not necessarily the best pressure to drive the firing piston which closes the bolt and opens the poppet valve. By regulating these gas supplies separately, each can be optimized for its own function. The Impulse uses approximately 50 psi to drive its firing piston. Compared to competing brand markers that drive pneumatic rams or hammers at 120 psi or more, this pressure reduction means that the Impulse bolt does not strike paint as hard, nor does it cause appreciable recoil or kick. This ultra-low force piston is only possible with the combination of the pressure balanced valve and dual-stage regulation.
[B]
Where are the Impulse's regulators and how are they adjusted?
Both the primary and second-stage regulators for the Impulse are built into small rectangular cartridges housed inside the grip frame. They are adjusted using allen-wrenches through the Impulse control panel - a rubber panel on the back of the grip frame. The modular design of the regulators also makes them quite simple to remove, inspect and clean or repair.
If the regulators are in the grip frame, what is in the foregrip?
The Impulse foregrip is an over-sized expanded volume chamber for the pressure balanced poppet valve. It provides a buffering reservoir of gas immediately adjacent to the valve, to prevent velocity drop-off under rapid fire. The bottom of the foregrip also contains an integrated relief valve to protect the Impulse from over-pressurization in case of a compressed air system regulator failure.
Can an aftermarket regulator be screwed in place of the foregrip, bypassing the primary Impulse regulator?
No, the Impulse foregrip does not use an ASA connection to attach to the marker body. A customized adapter and additional modifications would be required to use a different regulator.
Why is the Impulse firing piston air buffered?
By restricting gas flow vented from the firing piston, an air pressure buffer is created, slowing the piston and bolt as they near the end of their stroke. By slowing these parts, rather than letting them slam to an abrupt halt on impact with the valve, recoil is further eliminated from the Impulse's firing cycle.
What kind of HPA system should be used with the Impulse?
The Impulse will perform optimally with a compressed air system delivering between 600 and 900 psi. “Low-Output” compressed air systems outputting 400 psi, are not recommended, as they may not react fast enough to maintain consistent pressure under high rates of fire.
Will the Impulse run on CO2?
The Impulse was designed from day one to run on compressed air only. The integrated relief valve that protects the Impulse from HPA regulator failure also protects it from the pressure spikes related to CO2, so although the marker is not designed for CO2 use, it is protected from CO2 related pressure damage.
Why is an integrated relief valve important?
Increasingly, compressed air system some manufacturers (not Smart Parts) save money by neglecting to include output-pressure burst disks or relief valves in their products. If such an unprotected air system should develop an internal leak, it could deliver full tank pressure to a marker. The Impulse's built-in relief valve protects the marker's solenoid valve seals and other components that could otherwise be damaged by over-pressurization.
Does the Impulse use a spoopet valve?
No. The Impulse has a pressure balanced poppet valve. Internet rumors have suggested that Smart Parts was soon to release a marker with a valve that was a hybrid of spool and poppet valve designs. These rumors were not true. The Impulse is a poppet valve marker. Although it is not a spool valve, the new Impulse valve core does share a feature in common with the some Smart Parts spool valves designs – a tail. The tail end of the valve core is exposed to the outside air, the same as the pin end. This allows the gas pressure in the Impulse valve to press equally in both directions, resulting in a balanced valve that requires very little force to open.
Is the Impulse compatible with integrated air accessories for the Luxe from DLX Technology Group?
No. Although the Impulse bottom-line ASA and optional drop spacer rail work similar to those components on a Luxe, placement of their air ports is different, due to the requirements of the regulators placed within the grip.
Is the Impulse battery strong enough to get through a full weekend of paintball?
That really depends how much you shoot in a weekend. A fully charged Impulse battery will power the marker for approximately 100,000 shots under optimal conditions.
How long does it take the Impulse battery to charge?
Approximately 20 to 30 minutes. Charging time is affected by temperature, and battery discharge level.
What if there isn't time to charge the battery?
A second Lithium Polymer battery is included with the Impulse, and the battery side of the grip frame features Smart Parts quick grip snaps. The grip can be opened almost instantly without tools, and the low battery exchanged for a full battery in a matter of seconds.
What countries will the Impulse charger work in?
The Impulse charger is designed for universal operation with 110 or 220 volt AC wall outlets in most countries of the world. Prong adapters may be required outside of the US, Canada or Mexico.
Does the Impulse have a “Cricket” board?
No, the Impulse uses trigger-based programming with multi-colored LED feedback through the power button on the rear of its grip frame.
Is the Impulse circuit board tournament legal?
Yes, the Impulse features firing modes specifically designed to comply with the rules of all the current leading tournament series, and can be upgraded by Smart Parts techs, in case of a rules change. Additional scenario and recreational modes such as multi-shot burst, and Billy Ball are also included. The Impulse features a tournament lock button on the circuit board, that prevents mode changes from being made on the field.
What type of ball detents does the Impulse use?
Rubber nubbin style detents. The detents are located behind the Vision eye covers.
Why does the Impulse have a two-piece body?
The two piece body allows the electronics of the Vision anti-chop system to remain completely internal without bolt-on wire/eye covers, and provides machining access for the internal gas passages used by the Impulse's hose-free design. It also allows for some interesting parts color combination possibilities and unusual feature upgrades.
I don't like to rag on new guns, and I'm not going to here either, it looks good, looks light and looks like it's got a mix of a few good features to make it a good choice.
But by god Smart Parts know how to take basic crap that everyone already does and make it sound revolutionary. I mean come on, "duel regulation"? It has an LPR for the ram, same as every other gun except the shocker and droid, one pressure for the ram and one for the valve/ball shot. The revolutionary balanced poppit is just a copy of the valve evolve was doing years ago. I actually made a couple for angels years ago. I put one in Nelsons angel for one day and it was sick. So if they have it working well it will reduce kick heaps and will rock but it isn't revolutionary in any way.
Like I said it looks cool but the write up is all hype. It's looks and sounds good enough not to need it.:thumbsup:
Jamie_Cracker
29-05-2009, 08:26 PM
I don't like to rag on new guns, and I'm not going to here either, it looks good, looks light and looks like it's got a mix of a few good features to make it a good choice.
But by god Smart Parts know how to take basic crap that everyone already does and make it sound revolutionary. I mean come on, "duel regulation"? It has an LPR for the ram, same as every other gun except the shocker and droid, one pressure for the ram and one for the valve/ball shot. The revolutionary balanced poppit is just a copy of the valve evolve was doing years ago. I actually made a couple for angels years ago. I put one in Nelsons angel for one day and it was sick. So if they have it working well it will reduce kick heaps and will rock but it isn't revolutionary in any way.
Like I said it looks cool but the write up is all hype. It's looks and sounds good enough not to need it.:thumbsup:
stop making sense on here..this site is just for ranting
GAV WA
29-05-2009, 08:28 PM
Why does everyone keep telling me that. I think I need to drink more before getting on bills.
Oh nice gun too :angel:
Jamie_Cracker
29-05-2009, 08:42 PM
Why does everyone keep telling me that. I think I need to drink more before getting on bills.
Oh nice gun too :angel:
thats my theory mate...thats why gentleman jack is my friend
Jake D
29-05-2009, 10:54 PM
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Royale
29-05-2009, 11:03 PM
I like it.
LED programming is for the tip though.
Royale
29-05-2009, 11:29 PM
I have a mini, its air through body via grip regulator and 2 piece manafold. Fair enough, no hoses and minimal parts. Putting the mini together is easy enough, but it has to be done perfect or its a disaster of a gun to use. Too much lube, or just not resetting the poppet every time results in blowback, chopping, erratic chrono figures ect...
I have a sneaking suspicion the impulse is going to be less finicky than your mini. :thumbsup:
Not dissing the mini at all but you pay a premium for guns like an ego because you assume it's going to work.
And they do, as you know.
Most guns these days, irrespective of brand, configuration, gas through grip or macro line, past a certain price point are all expected to work with a minimum of fuss. The impulse you'd think, would be right in this zone.
KBOMB
30-05-2009, 12:50 AM
I have a sneaking suspicion the impulse is going to be less finicky than your mini. :thumbsup:
Not dissing the mini at all but you pay a premium for guns like an ego because you assume it's going to work.
And they do, as you know.
Most guns these days, irrespective of brand, configuration, gas through grip or macro line, past a certain price point are all expected to work with a minimum of fuss. The impulse you'd think, would be right in this zone.
I agree 100%
No ,no, diss the mini, it shoots like the clappers when its tuned fine. And with the tadao board its off its head. (some people think it ramps ;)). But its unreliable with various types of paints. And if you need to clean the eyes.... :hammer: Those 2 things in particular shit me at the moment about my gun.
That gun looks sweet in those pics though....
Common youtube it sum1!!! :D
Im still very intrested in getting one.
loki32687
30-05-2009, 03:33 AM
I have seen marcoline burst several times this year and twice seen the fittings just give out. If there ever happened to be a problem internally, it would a manufactor problem which should equal free fix/replace.
On saying that, I haven't heard on a single problem with the internal gas on the Luxe and I frequent the DLX forum on pbn every other day (and its 90% people complaining about a leak here and there or something else thats usually user error).
I understand what you are saying. However, when it comes down to it, would you rather replace macro fittings or macroline and finish off your day of play or would you rather pack it up and go home? That's just how I'm seeing it. Also, with the internal regs you don't have any option for a reg aside from stock...And stock SP regs from my experience....Well, I won't even go into that.
Edit: It's kind of like the eclipse frames "Designed to fail". I'd rather the rail snap pick up a new one and finish my day rather than have to call up the company and wait for a whole new frame set up to come in. I understand the idea behind it, however IMO it's just more of an inconvenience
I understand what you are saying. However, when it comes down to it, would you rather replace macro fittings or macroline and finish off your day of play or would you rather pack it up and go home? That's just how I'm seeing it. Also, with the internal regs you don't have any option for a reg aside from stock...And stock SP regs from my experience....Well, I won't even go into that.
Edit: It's kind of like the eclipse frames "Designed to fail". I'd rather the rail snap pick up a new one and finish my day rather than have to call up the company and wait for a whole new frame set up to come in. I understand the idea behind it, however IMO it's just more of an inconvenience
The Luxe has been out for coming up a year now, and there has been zero problems with the internal air or regs. And you can clearly see alot of Luxe influence in the new Impulse.
And from my personal experience of using SP and their regs on and off since 03 has been nothing short of complete satisfaction. But you can't really bring personal experiences into it when judging a new product.
Anyway it looks like this is going around in circles as does most sh*t on here, so I'm out.
loki32687
30-05-2009, 10:53 AM
The Luxe has been out for coming up a year now, and there has been zero problems with the internal air or regs. And you can clearly see alot of Luxe influence in the new Impulse.
And from my personal experience of using SP and their regs on and off since 03 has been nothing short of complete satisfaction. But you can't really bring personal experiences into it when judging a new product.
Anyway it looks like this is going around in circles as does most sh*t on here, so I'm out.
I've been playing for 12 years and haven't had a macro blow out on me...Doesn't mean it will never happen. I'm just saying I would much rather be able to fix something going wrong at the field than having to ship it out. That's all. Also, as far as the regs, you are correct. You can't base that on personal experiences. However, I still prefer the option of being able to use whatever reg I wish on my gun.
***Update***
19 June 2009;
The new 2009 Smart Parts Impulse
On June 16th 2009 PBL got to see the latest marker out of the Smart Parts camp which is now the most coveted marker in the industry. Only a select few have had a chance to look at it so far and PBL will be the first to sell it. Do you want to own it first? Then come to the CXBL's Event 3; The Border Battle, in Gananoque, Ontario July 4th and 5th. The first couple of Impulses will be on display and for sale in PBL's massive show trailer along with other great products.
Graham Easton, Smart Parts Senior Sales Executive, came to PBL to show all the staff what it can do. We learned about it, we held it and we shot it. The impulse got a heart transplant and wow, it's beating harder than ever! It shoots amazing! There is barely any kick, and it has ball on ball precision (even when missing a detent, like the one we were testing).
The main reason it shoots so well is because of its dual regulator system inside the grip. The dual regulation allows extremely low bolt force which makes the Impulse gentle on paint and lets it shoot without kick!
The Impulse has been reincarnated and you can be there for its rebirth on July 4th and 5th thanks to PBL and the CXBL!
And the beat goes on at PBL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2dylqJic0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpLLuuZX4nA
Very hot!!!!!!!!
Yep....this gun will be nice I had the chance to check one out at D-Day very cool :)
Evil Master
ogre237
20-06-2009, 12:57 AM
I came across this link on techpb
http://www.buypbl-paintball.com/en/news-feeds-mainmenu-7/81-new-2009-smart-parts-impulse
Not a bad vid. sorry if the link has been posted before i didn't spot it
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