Low Light - Lens makes a difference?

[Deadalready]

I've heard that a yellow lens can improve playing in low light conditions. Has anyone tried using these during morning/cloudy/raining/heavy foliage/sunset/night conditions?

Are there other lens types that could help during low light conditions?

[PAINTBALL PETE]

I have played in all conditions includeing under flares at D-Day08 and i use allways, yellow to clear fade and if i cant get them, i use all yellow. As u can c in my avatar
Try them you wont be dissapointed :thumbsup:


me

[JSC_Liason_neo]

i heard yellow to smoke :thumbsup:

[XER]

For me it depends on the weather. Yellow for low light conditions, Clear for normal conditions, and smoke for high level of sun (especially for arvo looking into the sun games).

Pick the wrong lens for a particular condition and I find that you either get low visibility or reflective glare from the sun.

[Royale]

I've heard that a yellow lens can improve playing in low light conditions. Has anyone tried using these during morning/cloudy/raining/heavy foliage/sunset/night conditions?

Are there other lens types that could help during low light conditions?

correctamundo.

Intensifies/focuses existing light.

Got caught out once with only a yellow lens on a clear summers day once....almost blinding.

lol.

[HouseholdDog]

correctamundo.

Intensifies/focuses existing light.

Got caught out once with only a yellow lens on a clear summers day once....almost blinding.

lol.
Dunno about intensifying the light. There is less light coming through a yellow filtered lens than a clear one. It apparently helps with contrast though.

Whole nightclubs of people, used to use yellow lensed sunnies, back in the 90's. Putting them on and going straight from the dark to the light. They do not blind you. Quite the reverse. They help block light.
http://www.partytrain.com.au/assets/images/IN_THE_DOME_3.jpgPaaarty on dude!!! :dance::dance:
Im not sure if the yellow tint thing has really been proven one way or another. It certainly is fairly subjective. Some people find it helpful, others don't.

I imagine it might make it a harder to spot a ref however. :)

[Royale]

Maybe you're getting confused with an amber lens though?

Have you tried a yellow lens before?

What I posted is what happened on the yellow lens on my profilers, and again the same effect on my flex 7's.

[Wol-Gran]

Ive used clear lens's, blue to black fade, mirror, yellow , and out of all them i gotta say i prefer the photochrmatic lens (transition lens) ive got in my grills, for all conditions!
Best Lens Ever!

[GNR_Hexen]

I don't know if the other goggle manufacturers include this with thier masks but V-Force Profilers have a spectrum chart in their manual which indicates what light get's through their lenses. I personally prefer a clear lens to a yellow/amber lens. But that's just personal preference. I see alot of people play indoor with yellow.

[Deadalready]

Well I'll be, hate to go with the crowd because it does seem like general consensus is yellow lens makes a difference. I suppose I'm gonna have to buy a yellow lens and try it out for myself, thanks for your input everyone.

[lump_a_charcoal]

I use dark lenses all the time and they are only ever a problem during finals of tournies, or any other time when the sun is setting...
Even in heavy bush they are fine...

[Souse]

I wear yellow lens in my glasses in everyday life...makes a big difference

[PAINTBALL PETE]

correctamundo.

Intensifies/focuses existing light.

Got caught out once with only a yellow lens on a clear summers day once....almost blinding.

lol.

That is what happens if u dont wear a peak over your lens as i can see by your avatar.
That is why they have brims on hats and peaks on caps its called a sun visior.



me

[Royale]

in my avvy i'm using a dark/smoke lens. No need for a visor.

[Daggz]

I find a yellow lens seems to make it easier to detect movement.
I have a yellow smoke fade it works fine for me, playing at dusk in the scrub the smoke is a bit of a pain, but I found that the yellow did help pick up the movement amoungst the ferns and give that vital split second avantage.

"It's gotta be the lens, I'm old and move like continental drift" :lol:

[Tricky]

I'm in the bush every weekend
the sun goes down about 5:30 atm and with my yellow lens i am still fine until 5:15

[slcmorro]

I personally use a JT mirrored and tinted lens in my Flex8's and to be honest, even at dusk whether it be tourney or bush, it doesn't bother me.

[HouseholdDog]

Certainly have a go with the yellow/amber etc. It can't harm.

I'm not saying they don't work, just that the benefits are fairly subjective.

Its a bit like those blueish headlamps. They appear brighter, in reality a lot of them are a lot dimmer. Some people can perceive shapes better with them. So, who knows?

Certainly there is more to vision, than just getting a lot of light through.

Might make it a bit easier to shoot ref though .:)

[Mark:-)]

I use nothing but amber/yellow lenses in all conditions. it increases visibility of incoming balls. If i'm bunking with bones I wear them to bed, I'm scared of more incoming balls.

[SwAmP tHiNg]

mirrors or smoke when playing into sunlight and also reffing, stops players reading the reffs for advantage.
clears for indoors, and yellows too pending light brightness outdoors.

and pete, have you gotten used to the taste of paint?? you have trimmed bottoms on your goggs??!!

[lump_a_charcoal]

I use nothing but amber/yellow lenses in all conditions. it increases visibility of incoming balls. If i'm bunking with bones I wear them to bed, I'm scared of more incoming balls.

They magnify too hey?

[HouseholdDog]

I wouldn't mind polarised lenses.

Does anybody know if paintball lenses have any UV protection?

I have not been able to find out?

[SwAmP tHiNg]

nope, but the closet i have seen to polarised is goggleskinz, run a few pairs, one for bush, removes the plastic's glint off the lense, the other is just for sh!ts and giggles.
http://www.billspaintball.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=15611&page=10

[GNR_Hexen]

According to V-Force all of their Profiler lenses provide UV protection. (Again from the goggle's manual).

[SwAmP tHiNg]

According to V-Force all of their Profiler lenses provide UV protection. (Again from the goggle's manual).

jt dont advertise anything about uv protection, and neither does procaps on their goggs.
http://www.procapsdirect.com/p-83-profiler-se.aspx
http://www.procapsdirect.com/p-82-profiler.aspx
only their morph lense has a darkness adjuster based on uv exposure.
http://www.procapsdirect.com/p-109-profiler-shield-morph-lenses-photo-chromatic.aspx
while it conforms to EN166 standards, i dont think it fufills the uv protection requirements EN170, even though there is a reaction to uv light, i dont think it would surfice as being sufficient to be classed as uv protection.
their webiste would have to also specify if they offer uv protection, as to the range and level of protection.
you might want to confirm with them of this.

heres a link to a basic interpretation of EN166:
EN166 : Personal eye-protection against various dangers

The EN166 standard is applicable to all types of personal eye protectors used against various dangers liable to damage the eye or to alter the vision, with the exception of radiation of nuclear origin, X rays, laser beams, infrared rays given out by sources at low temperatures. The specifications of this standard are not applicable to eye protectors for which separate and complete standards exist, such as anti-laser eye protector, all purpose solar spectacles, etc. The eye protectors fitted with corrective lenses are not excluded from the application field.

[Chief Wiggum]

Professional pistol shooters all use yellow tint sunglasses so I guess that tells you something.

http://images.google.com.au/images?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2008-22,GGLJ:en&q=olympic%20shooters&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

Just googled Olympic Shooter and I would say 80% of the images, they use yellow lens.

I used one many many years ago, and I recall that it worked well in low light.

[Chief Wiggum]

http://www.kevinscatalog.com/products.asp?dept=1071

"Once you see, feel and try on Beretta’s Breakthrough Shooting/Sportsman Glasses it will confirm your first impression. There are three interchangeable lenses, Yellow for poor atmospheric conditions like overcast skies and fog. Vermillion for bright, sunny days. Grey for those days when the weather can’t make up it’s mind. Three Interchangeable Lenses: Yellow, Vermillion & Grey."

And here are all the glasses they sell, mostly yellow ones;

http://www.kevinscatalog.com/products.asp?dept=1435

[giant]

Yeah I use a yellow when playing indoors, and it makes a heap of difference.
The Dye i3 Pro's come with a fade lens (clear to amberish brown) and if you run the lens over your line of sight you can see the contrast increase when you get to the amber part.

[Mark:-)]

i'm tellin ya, yellow for all conditions. I use fire mirror lenses for reffing so the players can't see my eyes.

[ghostrider]

I used to use yellow or amber all the timeuntil i was told that it can fark your eyes if you use them during the day but i def found them better. Not sure if its true about damaging the eyes though. I didnt want to risk it.
Tends to make me open the eyes up a bit more.

[Souse]

I used to use yellow or amber all the timeuntil i was told that it can fark your eyes if you use them during the day but i def found them better. Not sure if its true about damaging the eyes though. I didnt want to risk it.
Tends to make me open the eyes up a bit more.

Yellow or amber wont affect your eyes at all as my prescription glasses have yellow lens.....and my specialist says they are fine......I been wearing yellow prescription lens for around 10 years now

Only down fall is everyone thinks your colour blind

[Mark:-)]

amber/yellows good for when ur hungover cos it makes u open your eyes :)

[ghostrider]

Yellow or amber wont affect your eyes at all as my prescription glasses have yellow lens.....and my specialist says they are fine......I been wearing yellow prescription lens for around 10 years now

Only down fall is everyone thinks your colour blind

Sweet, i think i will getem back on again.

[Deadalready]

I've picked up a pair of yellows and I must say I'm now converted.
Goodbye to clears... amazing.

[Dutto]

Gentlemen. First time I have loged on for a while but I thought I should reply as this is my "only" area of any expertise.

Attached is a copy of a study that the US Army did in 1968. Basically it finds that Yellow lens reduce you abiliy to spot human in cam against a jungle background. Also it found that you also over estimate range as a result.

FYI. As par as lens go they simple remove a good percentage of all lighting from other parts of the spectrum other than their own color. So simply put you will be recieving less light "total" to your eye by using lens.
What makes this worse is in "low light" conditions we oftern talk about morning and afternoon where there is accually a larger amount of UV to blue colour in the enviroment due to the way the Sun interacts with the Earth's atmosphere. So in that case where light is low and its mostly UV to Blue and we use a yellow lens we acuallty reduce the amount of light the eye recieve further. But in saying this in the human eye with have sensors which only react in low light conditions and they mostly react in Black and White but also have some response to the red end of the light spectrum.

The next thing I hear you say what about contrast and moving target aquisition, oftern they are the same thing. Contrast is only the diffrence in the amount of reflected light recieved by the eye of the subject when compaired to it background. With this is mind and everything you have learnt above. If your subject includes yellows to reds you will see them better but if they are blues to green all you do is make it harder on yourself. This applies in any condition of light.

But basically the answer to the questions is. Yellow lens will only hinder you ability to play paintball up to the point of etermemly low light conditions (moonlight) where it would play a small role in helping you see contrast.

An interesting fact. Yellow lens where orginally used to help with shoot "yellow" traps in mid air with a rifle. You will also find if you purchased yellow glasses they would also include orange lens which now match the current range of target being used internationally.