Differences between air Tanks?

[Logan]

Hi, -i know there are a million other threads regarding Air vs Co2 - but im asking about Air vs Air -ie, whats the differences between tanks?

I notice Action has the LUXFER 68 CU IN 4500PSI TANK: $250.00
and the 420 4500 PRESET 68 CU IN AIR SYSTEM: $350.00
What warrants the $100 difference?

same goes for the LUXFER 91 CU IN 4500PSI TANK: $380.00
vs the 420 4500 PRESET 91 CU IN AIR SYSTEM: $500.00

i would have assumed you would get the same amount of Shots from the same sized tanks - and they are all the same pressure (4500psi) -i notice the 420 tanks have a gauge built in - but what exactly is it doing? -i assume that it is doing something beneficial, because there cant be that much difference in quality of tank if they both pass the standards... the cheaper tanks arent missing anything either are they? i was under the impression that they were 'plug and play' - that you dont need anything else to use them

just trying to Figure out whats best for myself - ill be using them on remote line if that changes anything.

cheers.

Logan

[acc1]

Hmm i dont know alot about the tanks however i think this is only brand name. And mostly just quality difference as both tanks have the same inside them im pretty sure its coming down to the fine edges of the quality and or brand name.

[Hardcore]

Ummm, maybe the Preset reg you get with them????

Tank = $380
Tank + reg = $500.

[Dougie The Pizza Boy]

Hi, -i know there are a million other threads regarding Air vs Co2 - but im asking about Air vs Air -ie, whats the differences between tanks?

I notice Action has the LUXFER 68 CU IN 4500PSI TANK: $250.00
and the 420 4500 PRESET 68 CU IN AIR SYSTEM: $350.00
What warrants the $100 difference?

same goes for the LUXFER 91 CU IN 4500PSI TANK: $380.00
vs the 420 4500 PRESET 91 CU IN AIR SYSTEM: $500.00

i would have assumed you would get the same amount of Shots from the same sized tanks - and they are all the same pressure (4500psi) -i notice the 420 tanks have a gauge built in - but what exactly is it doing? -i assume that it is doing something beneficial, because there cant be that much difference in quality of tank if they both pass the standards... the cheaper tanks arent missing anything either are they? i was under the impression that they were 'plug and play' - that you dont need anything else to use them

just trying to Figure out whats best for myself - ill be using them on remote line if that changes anything.

cheers.

Logan


Logan,

I think you will find that:

One refers to a tank only price.

The other refers to a tank + Centerflag preset regulator.

Best thing to do is call the guys at action, they will set you up with what is most appropriate for your needs........

[Logan]

Yeah - i had gathered the Gauge was a reg -im just wondering - whats it do? and is it necessary? (esp when on a remote?) -just thought i'd ask around here before bothering the guys at action (or Dman - cause he puts up with enough of my questions as it is.)

if anyone wants to break it down for me -im all ears.

cheers
Logan

[Electrofunkster]

short answer ... YES YOU NEED ONE !!!

maybe its best if you ask someone to explain the whole story about HPA to you before you break yourself

[The Buddhist]

hey logan

I'm sure Dman or the boys at action will be willing to answer all your questions. :thumbsup:

[Jamie_Cracker]

logan...loved you in big brother this year.....anyway you have to reduce the cylinder pressure before it gets into your marker..these regulators do exacyly that they regulate the amount of pressure going into your marker
ie your cylinder pressure is 4500psi and your marker operating pressure is 300psi
its like a scuba system the first stage regulates the air from the cylinder to the second stage from which you breathe
anyway if you need to know more give us a yell

[acc1]

Logan i voted for you.
Id go for the centerflag. :thumbsup:

[HenryG]

short answer ... YES YOU NEED ONE !!!

maybe its best if you ask someone to explain the whole story about HPA to you before you break yourself
High pressure air can kill. Be carefull when using this

[Logan]

well cheers lads.

im pretty sure i get the gist now.

the luxfer tanks are not 'plug and play' - i need a reg -the 420 tanks have a reg already on them -and hence are 'plug and play' -will run it past Dman before i go trying to just whack on an air tank. cheers.... hmmm. makes the 91CU tank an even bigger hurdle =P

cheers again.

[Rainman]

91 CU means a larger tank size, which holds more air, hence depending on what marker you are shooting, may give you more shots per fill.

[Logan]

http://www.firestormcrank.com/index.html

-dont know if its legal - but DAMN -if it is, then the 91CU might be worth getting =P

[Rainman]

All I can say is WOW.
Wonder if it will attach to my marker man.

[acc1]

Field Legal: Shoots 1 Paintball per Trigger Pull
More like shoots 4 balls for every turn lol

[Blue]

im pretty sure i get the gist now.

the luxfer tanks are not 'plug and play' - i need a reg -the 420 tanks have a reg already on them -and hence are 'plug and play'

umm not sure if you do mate...

a tank is a tank
an air system is an air system

no tank is plug and play it either needs a valve or a reg, it does not matter if it is CO2 or air.
makes no diff what brand tank you have relative to your "plug and play" label

[Logan]

It was originally built for a guy who had lost his fingers in an accident, but still wanted to play ball competitively. -they built him a crank he could push with his palm.

Tis Legal in the States, as its only one shot per trigger pull (despite tthe mechanism doing the 'pulling') and i wonder if its legal over here.

Would be one way for us woodsballers to step up to tourney competitiveness. :lol:

[Bill]

Would be one way for us woodsballers to step up to tourney competitiveness. :lol:
I cant see how it would do anything other than make you less competitive :confused:

700 rpm is slow compared to your average marker used at tourneys, and I cant see how having a crank on the side will help with snap shots, aiming, balance and anything else that is vital.

[Rainman]

Shoosh Bill, you know that you want one........ :lol:

[Electrofunkster]

for the MAG

[Deadeye]

It is deffenitly NOT legal in overseas tournaments.

[Rainman]

I am soooo gonna get one for my Proto.I will then be unstoppable.

[Jamie_Cracker]

hey logan the 420 is the actuall regulator that screws onto the cylinder and the 69cu or 91 denotes the capacity of the cylinder the bigger the cylinder the more shots but also an increase in size

[Logan]

heh bill -when your a5 is capable of a whopping 5bps manual -its a big step in the right direction

it may not be legal for tourney's -but there isnt a bush ball system yet =P

-but for the rest of yous -had a chat to Dman, as usual, he was happy to put up with my questions (only a matter of time before he cuts me into little pieces and stuffs me in a boot im sure :lol: ) and ill sort out all my air issues next time i play -should all be good -but cheers for the input.

[Jamie_Cracker]

good stuff mate dont worry about dman he plays like a girl..hang on cherryl his missus is a great player so he plays worse than a girl
hope we helped some...ask away next time you wanna know something