Action Paintball

[lordy]

Last wednesday dropped into action paintball for a shoot. Great service and equipment. The pro shop was gold! Now i cant wait 2 get my own gear and play more often. It was good 2 get a feel for paintball again since i last worked at Garry's. Esp Bunkering!!! :lol: Good Work Guys!

[Action John]

Thanks for the praise Lordy, it was nice to meet you too dude. We look forward to having your company again. Welcome back to paintball! :thumbsup:

[The Camo Kid]

i live in brisbane and ordered some stuff for my A5 from action paintball and was impressed by the speed in which i received a reply to my enquiry about the stuff and when i ordered it impressed at the speed in which i received it, thought it was funny when moneky sent me out the wrong pro team stock and sent me acouple of 9 yr old paintball mags to make up for it :lol:

besides that was impressed by the speed and service of it all, if im down in sydney in september i might have to come in and buy a few more things ;)

[RODDERZ]

ITs been 3 weeks and no jersey that I WON!!!


Pweez guyz i reallies reallies wants its.

[Jamie_Cracker]

i live in brisbane and ordered some stuff for my A5 from action paintball and was impressed by the speed in which i received a reply to my enquiry about the stuff and when i ordered it impressed at the speed in which i received it, thought it was funny when moneky sent me out the wrong pro team stock and sent me acouple of 9 yr old paintball mags to make up for it :lol:

besides that was impressed by the speed and service of it all, if im down in sydney in september i might have to come in and buy a few more things ;)
make sure you do mate you wont be dissappointed

[The Camo Kid]

depends on the money situation matey, just spent 2 grand getting the defender fixed am keen to buy some more paintball stuff but i stupidly did the math on what my A5 + upgrades have cost me and im thinking of spending some cash on something else

[Jamie_Cracker]

well see thats the prob sell the rover and get a cruiser....dont think about money think of fun

[The Camo Kid]

why would i take a step down in quality? :fu: hahahaahha, my first weekend with the defender i went to levuka 4wd park and came across a bloke in a cruiser struggling getting up this hill, after a few attempts he backed out and told me i should do the same cos i wasnt gonna make it up there in my rover piece of !@#$$$$, i bet him a carton of beer and got in the car and put it in low range centre diff locked, she walked straight up it, without a problem, the bloke in the cruiser was so upset he jumped in his car and took off, not coughing up the beer,

[Jamie_Cracker]

the bastard....some people couldnt drive a duck to water

[The Camo Kid]

yeah well that cruiser drivers for ya!!! :P it was funny cos his tool box and his tools went flying everywhere as his rig just bounced trying to get over this simple bump

[captinsane]

:rolleyes:
thought it was funny when moneky sent me out the wrong pro team stock
THis bloke sent me a handgun and i didn't get no magazines

[The Camo Kid]

well you want the ones he sent me?

[SniperWolf]

hey captinsane, wats happening with Mangohill skirmish? Is there an ETA on fields opening? :whip:

[JasION]

yeah well that cruiser drivers for ya!!! :P it was funny cos his tool box and his tools went flying everywhere as his rig just bounced trying to get over this simple bump


Stop picking on us cruiser owners...... :cry:

Any way, its not what you have :no: , its how you use it :rofl:

[The Camo Kid]

hahaha well this bloke certainly didnt know how to use it, but if you saw what he was trying to get over you would be standing there thinking how the hell are you messing up getting up this hill. it was 45- 50 degree hill that went up about 200 metres and was smooth as anything

[The Camo Kid]

went to action paintball yesterday to buy a few things for myself and a few mates, and my god was i impressed, monkey was patient and gathered up all the different things for me, and the other guys there chatted to my mother who had to drive me out there cos i dont have a clue when it comes to driving in sydney,


so thanks alot to the guys out at action, will definately be making a trip out there next time im down in sydney,

[roland1968]

I was looking forward to playing at Action paintball, but it ened up being a bad day and experience. I having been playing rec paintball for 13 years and on two differnt contients. I'm no novice or dummy.I also ref occassionally. I did find they had a well stocked Pro Store, and I enjoyed the feilds, but it didn't go much passed that. the refs I had were:
1)Impaient, a 2 minute multiple life period is that,2 minutes, not 40 seconds. I'm not into multiple life periods, but for the other novice players, it threw them completely. He would ask people to hurry up whn ten minutes before he just chatting to his buddies while others sat around.
2) harrasment- to the female players. They use water to clean down the masks, but to continue to hose down the female player, who isn't happy, is harrasmment.
3) rude- I don't take to refs who swear at customers. I can understand when you are in the middle of the field and one whacks you, but that is where it stops. You don't swear at your customers.

The paint was bad paint. It was asian import which was not filled properly, warped and a bad shield. I used it in their Icon and my Tippmasn and I have not cleaned a marker so many times.

The rentals guns were incorrectly assembled. The hopper lids kepy popping open and the power feeds were not screwed on strongly. I had mine pop open twice and fall off once. I Carry a multi tool and had to tighten several other players powerfeeds who had the same problem.

Insufficent breaks with no "away" safety areas. I understand that a few were ona three hour payment plan, but to play straight with no breaks to either clean masks from the inside, from fog, or water intake is asking for trouble. It was 24 C today, just nice, but the humidity was up and the swaet was pouring off the players. There was safety area away from the main one to do additional cleaning or a breather. Social players are not use to keeping a mask on for three hours straight and mask lifts than become more often.

Torney team practise during social games. Go for it, but the field needs a full safety screen around it, including the back where social groups are walking pass. At 20-30 rounds per second from 5 players is 150 rounds per second, so walking pass at these times is asking for trouble.

Firing squads. I have been at fields who handle this in different ways. I ahev never objected, even though I don't agree as they add to the assault part of a field operator as it is not disclosed in any waiver. Even worse is this ref did the firing squad from 6-8 metres away. Personally I was happy when he was accidentally hit during the games. He was sadistic. It is not a good way to keep masks down. Get a saftey area next to the fields and it gives people that opportunity. Yell scream, pull the mask down yourself, but firing squads are not the answer and not at 6-8m

Pity, they were nice fields and it was an honest, happy group I joined, but I would not recommend Action Paintball to anyone till they clean up their act. Their insurance people would not be happy and maybe even work Cover.

[T-unit=BJ]

what a cry baby!^:cry:

[SPEC_OPS]

yeah i have ordered my mask and my mates and two smoke lenses and was ammazed at the speed it took to make it to were i live.

[The Camo Kid]

what a cry baby!^:cry:



not the best way to handle that, he is a paying customer and wasnt too happy with what he got, it happens at times,

im not defending the guy, nor am i siding with him, just discuss it in a proper manner,


roland if you are not happy discuss it with Action John Or Action Mike, might be best if you discuss your complaint privately with them

[acc1]

what a cry baby!^:cry:

Its his experience on the day. Do you want him to lie? :hammer:

[T-unit=BJ]

not the best way to handle that, he is a paying customer and wasnt too happy with what he got, it happens at times,

im not defending the guy, nor am i siding with him, just discuss it in a proper manner,


roland if you are not happy discuss it with Action John Or Action Mike, might be best if you discuss your complaint privately with them

some people complain about everything I work at a paintball field and its hard to keep everyone under control and provide great customer service plus with regards to his comments you could do everything differently personally I hate it when fu*k head joombie punters shoot me on purpose and they do it. I think the right thing to do if you have a problem with something or some one is bring it up with them not not be a girly man and write a poorly constructed and spelt essay

[The Camo Kid]

mate i work at a field also, so i know what people are like, ive seen peoples IQ's halve as soon as you hand them a marker, ive seen the best and worst in people
all im saying is the bloke has a complaint, let him and the people that matter, ie Action staff discuss it in a reasonable manner,


and ill be the first to admit that yeah i have my off days and i might swear when i get lit up by a customer, or get cranky with people lifting their masks, just gotta read the signs and work with the group

[Jamie_Cracker]

some people complain about everything I work at a paintball field and its hard to keep everyone under control and provide great customer service plus with regards to his comments you could do everything differently personally I hate it when fu*k head joombie punters shoot me on purpose and they do it. I think the right thing to do if you have a problem with something or some one is bring it up with them not not be a girly man and write a poorly constructed and spelt essay



OMG what is the world coming too iam agreeing with T UNIT.....i did overhear this guy whinge and my first thought was here we go another tool bag rec ball player but he is entitled to his own opinion

[SPEC_OPS]

hey but if all that is true, then it should be fixed, or else u will have less people coming to action.

[Sonic]

im not defending the guy, nor am i siding with him, just discuss it in a proper manner,

roland if you are not happy discuss it with Action John Or Action Mike, might be best if you discuss your complaint privately with them

Agreed, the guy is entitled to state their opinion on the quality of service provided. If they really have a beef with their experience then they should take it up with the staff at action.

[Whitey]

At 20-30 rounds per second from 5 players is 150 rounds per second,



Mate can you get these people to come and teach me to shoot, I would love to be able to shoot 20 - 30 rounds a second :no: , Flash Gordon wouldn't be able to run through that streem.......................I think you might be stretching it a bit :rolleyes:

[Hardcore]

what a cry baby!^:cry:

T-Unit and I agree for once.

Roland1968, bringing people together....

[Mike]

I was looking forward to playing at Action paintball, but it ened up being a bad day and experience. I having been playing rec paintball for 13 years and on two differnt contients. I'm no novice or dummy.I also ref occassionally. I did find they had a well stocked Pro Store, and I enjoyed the feilds, but it didn't go much passed that. the refs I had were:
1)Impaient, a 2 minute multiple life period is that,2 minutes, not 40 seconds. I'm not into multiple life periods, but for the other novice players, it threw them completely. He would ask people to hurry up whn ten minutes before he just chatting to his buddies while others sat around.
2) harrasment- to the female players. They use water to clean down the masks, but to continue to hose down the female player, who isn't happy, is harrasmment.
3) rude- I don't take to refs who swear at customers. I can understand when you are in the middle of the field and one whacks you, but that is where it stops. You don't swear at your customers.

The paint was bad paint. It was asian import which was not filled properly, warped and a bad shield. I used it in their Icon and my Tippmasn and I have not cleaned a marker so many times.

The rentals guns were incorrectly assembled. The hopper lids kepy popping open and the power feeds were not screwed on strongly. I had mine pop open twice and fall off once. I Carry a multi tool and had to tighten several other players powerfeeds who had the same problem.

Insufficent breaks with no "away" safety areas. I understand that a few were ona three hour payment plan, but to play straight with no breaks to either clean masks from the inside, from fog, or water intake is asking for trouble. It was 24 C today, just nice, but the humidity was up and the swaet was pouring off the players. There was safety area away from the main one to do additional cleaning or a breather. Social players are not use to keeping a mask on for three hours straight and mask lifts than become more often.

Torney team practise during social games. Go for it, but the field needs a full safety screen around it, including the back where social groups are walking pass. At 20-30 rounds per second from 5 players is 150 rounds per second, so walking pass at these times is asking for trouble.

Firing squads. I have been at fields who handle this in different ways. I ahev never objected, even though I don't agree as they add to the assault part of a field operator as it is not disclosed in any waiver. Even worse is this ref did the firing squad from 6-8 metres away. Personally I was happy when he was accidentally hit during the games. He was sadistic. It is not a good way to keep masks down. Get a saftey area next to the fields and it gives people that opportunity. Yell scream, pull the mask down yourself, but firing squads are not the answer and not at 6-8m

Pity, they were nice fields and it was an honest, happy group I joined, but I would not recommend Action Paintball to anyone till they clean up their act. Their insurance people would not be happy and maybe even work Cover.


Thanks for the heads up Roland:thumbsup:

A couple of small points dude,

1. If your lid keeps popping open then you need to close it properly. They will make a clicking noise when this happens:D

2. The details about the firing squad is listed on the "big red words" on our 3 metre high safety sign that you have to sit in front of and is explained clearly during the safety talk itself. It is not on our indemnity form, neither is where the toilets are located. Next time you should listen........everybody else did.

3. The people in your group all kept playing after you left and at the end of their day they were coming up and thanking us for a fun filled day. How strange?

4. Our Insurance company is very happy with all our systems including the firing squad system and use us as the benchmark for all new business in paintball that they are looking at.

4. The paint was an asian import which was not filled properly, warped and a bad shield. (I assume you meant shell). Well, what can I say to that, you were shooting the same paintballs that I was on the same day......but since you have 13 years experience I will have to take your word for it. My paint shot great all day, despite the aweful humidity.

5. Our guns are "incorrectly" put together, again has me a bit confused but
at least you are consistant. :D

6. As I explained to you on the day, we will do as many breaks for groups as they request, this was also in the safety talk, I see a pattern developing.....

I think in summation, it would be best for you to keep playing at all the other superior fields for the future since obviously as player with your vast paintball experience (and your SL-68 with it's big freaken scope) need not ever grace us with your presence again.:thumbsup:

[Electrofunkster]

Now thats customer service ... with a capital POWNED !!!

[Grant]

I have never been to the action venue but i have only ever heard good things about it, and if you take your mask off in my opinion you should be shot with a real gun. At the end of the day once someone in Australia get seriously hurt (a punter) with a paintball gun i can see our sport and business for some going on a downhill slide.

[The Camo Kid]

Now thats customer service ... with a capital POWNED !!!


gotta agree with ya on that one DAMN he was just owned

[acc1]

I have never been to the action venue but i have only ever heard good things about it, and if you take your mask off in my opinion you should be shot with a real gun. At the end of the day once someone in Australia get seriously hurt (a punter) with a paintball gun i can see our sport and business for some going on a downhill slide.

They are not as aware as the regular players of how dangerous and important it actualy is and there should be a choice of firing squad or sit out the next match/game. But with only firing squad it might be a lil harsh for some. :p


And roland you should take your complaint or suggestion to mike or john? It will be a little more contructive for both of you. Hope you sort it out with action and come to a conclusion.. or something.. lol

[Jamie_Cracker]

mmmmm seek closure

[roland1968]

thank you to those who commented, whether you were for, against or sustained. This is why they call it a forum where you can air your views and opinions.
For those Tourney players who don't like rec players, we are the reason fields stay open so you can play your tourneys. Without the weekend rec players, the fields don't stay in business. Tourney players have helped the manufacturers better the equipment while rec players keep the industry afloat.

[Whitey]

What about slander????????????????????????

[dazmac]

Maybe you had a bad experience. Maybe the ref in question was a redneck lazy bastard, but that one person does not reflect the business that they work for. I have been running paintball games here in Melbourne and Moama for 15 years and have seen many refs come and go, some guys have issues with dealing with groups but they dont last too long in the company they work for. You can't blame Action paintball for this guys attitude. A better course of action may have been to get in touch with the guys at Action on the day and inform them of this person instead of openly slandering them here. I have dealt with the guys up there from time to time (most recently when i was chronying my .270 bolt action and forgot about the 2" drop from the sight resulting in me shooting the Chronograph with my rifle...was funny with hindsight) and the service was excellent!
On the other hand, I definatly am against firing squads.

[Crazy]

Look out as I'm going to actually commend Mike for responding to this customers complaints. He didn't stoop too far into sarcasm and addressed every point except for a few ( the refs wetting the female customer for one) .
On that point I would have a talk to the ref as that is not exceptable behavour. ( if that's all the story as I wasn't there).

As for DAzmacs comment that you can't blame Action for the refs attitude , I totally disagree with that as the ref is the face of Action paintball and EVERYTHING they do reflects on the business.
How a ref dresses, acts and treats the customers and other staff reflects on the business.
I wouldn't expect the customer service training I've received at my job( nonpaintball) but I would expect a bit of common curtesy and manners.
Saying that I have to add that I have sworn at customers and apologised after to the customer for loosing my temper.

To all who say you should have taken this to Action before posting in a public forum then I say you must take the good with the bad and as Mike did address the complaint and show your side of the situation rather than say bugger off you whinging noob.

You must all know that it takes ONE customer to say that they wouldn't go to Action paintball to six people and then those six people talk to more and so on.
EVERY customer is important and must be respected as such. Wether their right or wrong you must try your best to help them.

Keep playing paintball Roland1968 as this sport is the best I've ever played.

[GIBB]

Roland...I call BULLSHIET!!!
:hammer:
Action is the place to play for both rec or tourney players.
I have worked there and I have seen the commitment that they give to their customers.
Please Roland put your skirt back on and go play lawn darts!!!
Cheers
GIBB

[baalbeck]

As a regular player Rec or tourney we should all be aware of our actions toward new players at whatever level. If your many years experience gives you that warm fuzzy feeling then help the refs by setting an example. Pay attention to what the ref's are saying don't distract the noobs and keep an eye on them.
A regular who thinks they know better and wants everybody to notice this is the biggest saftey risk. They challenge the refs and confuse the punters. Not all ref's are perfect and some are new. Help them if you really have what it takes! Don't just use the day as an excuse to whip out the Macguyver knife!
We've all see it before.:whip:

[Sharpy]

thank you to those who commented, whether you were for, against or sustained. This is why they call it a forum where you can air your views and opinions.
For those Tourney players who don't like rec players, we are the reason fields stay open so you can play your tourneys. Without the weekend rec players, the fields don't stay in business. Tourney players have helped the manufacturers better the equipment while rec players keep the industry afloat.

I see you brought ur self a dictionary this time... ur english has improved immensly... and for some 1 who has played paintball for 13 years, surely you realise how hard it is for Refs to keep SOME players in line, and if they get out of line, it can be very dangerous for others. A paintball marker is a firearm remember, and in the wrong hands can be very VERY dangerous. I was at a field once, in a group of reckless n00bs. with about 4 refs out there, they lined up the two teams, all facing the same direction to do a test firing, so ppl get use to the markers etc, and to make sure they are all working properly. Then, Usually, they tell us what the first game will be, get u into position and ur off. But this group decided to turn and start shooting while we were doing the test firing. i copped 1 on the shoulder, and WTF!. so we stood there for a sec, then every one practiaclly opened fire. :no: i culdnt just stand there, so we started the game, but the problem was, u wuld shoot some 1 bout 10 times, and they wouldnt go out, no matter wat. They only calmed down and stopped once the refs started bringing out their markers, 15-20 bps coming at u from a ref behind a shield really made the fukers stop quick. Now thats a long story for no farken reason, but, it does show that force is sometimes required at a field to control and keep people safe. if u got lined up from 6-8 mtrs away and faced a firing squad every time u lifted ur mask u'd stop pretty quick wuldnt u? So really, thats better for insurance, a person getting some welts on there back to a person getting a eyeball explode in its socket because a paintball hit it from a team mate who accidently fired while the dude had his goggs up!

And how do you not put a marker together properly? If it fires paintball's its been put together properly ya? Or do you just mean they didnt put any scopes on their Iconz?

[acc1]

It says in his post the hoppers fell off i think...Nothing mentioned of scopes.

[T-unit=BJ]

he is gay anyway so i dont care:)

[Blobby]

"I did find they had a well stocked Pro Store, and I enjoyed the feilds, but it didn't go much passed that"

how did you read that ben?????

[TRENT]

Yes BJ, Shut up you damn joombie!

[T-unit=BJ]

Hay Trent next to weapon of choice you have spelt handbag wrong

[bunkerboy]

I see you brought ur self a dictionary this time... ur english has improved immensly...
Pot calling kettle black:rolleyes: I counted atleast 30 spelling and grammar errors in your post, but I won't hold that against you seeing as although it was full of all these mistakes your post was actually quite good and had valid points:o

In my opinion, issues of this sort should be taken up with the management on the day, not aired for everyone to see without said management being given the opportunity to offer any recompense or explanations. If you feel you still have a grievance or matters were not cleared up to your satisfaction, then, by all means voice your dissatifaction publicly.

[CyberPunk]

I have to say that I am very dissapointed in Action. I understand that some customers may not be happy, but this guy obviously had a very bad day. Mike and Electro, you guys should consider a bit of constructive critisism without biting back so readily (calling the guy POWNED - man thats just childish). I hope that next time you will think a bit harder about projecting a better image for our sport.

[CJD]

Seems like everybody is getting in on this little argument!

I think it's ridiculous that so many people have come on here and badmouthed this guy Roland because he had a simple complaint. And to call his complaint slander is just stupid. He didn't swear or insult anybody, nor did he badmouth the business - he simply recounted his experience there. I have been a referee for quite a while now, I've trained many refs along the way, and I have even been the frontman who deals with customer complaints, so I can certainly understand the situation, and it's so easy to just discuss the complaints and reach an understanding - but obviously it's even easier to insult him and shrug off his complaints with a few sarcastic remarks.

Each referee's actions is absolutely the responsibility of the business, and if his story is true, then this referee seems like one of the many useless ones I've seen and his actions should be apologised for. And even if a ref is being lit up purposely, it's usually because he wasn't doing his job properly in the first place. In all the time I've been reffing, I've never once been shot on purpose, and I've had all types of people - from half-drunk bucks groups to rowdy biker gangs. It's all in the way you communicate and relate to the customers. Of course I've had tons of problems with mask-lifters, but to give them the firing squad is overkill. 95% of guys will follow the rules if you talk to them properly...

[dazmac]

Seems like everybody is getting in on this little argument!

I think it's ridiculous that so many people have come on here and badmouthed this guy Roland because he had a simple complaint. And to call his complaint slander is just stupid. He didn't swear or insult anybody, nor did he badmouth the business - he simply recounted his experience there. I have been a referee for quite a while now, I've trained many refs along the way, and I have even been the frontman who deals with customer complaints, so I can certainly understand the situation, and it's so easy to just discuss the complaints and reach an understanding - but obviously it's even easier to insult him and shrug off his complaints with a few sarcastic remarks.

Each referee's actions is absolutely the responsibility of the business, and if his story is true, then this referee seems like one of the many useless ones I've seen and his actions should be apologised for. And even if a ref is being lit up purposely, it's usually because he wasn't doing his job properly in the first place. In all the time I've been reffing, I've never once been shot on purpose, and I've had all types of people - from half-drunk bucks groups to rowdy biker gangs. It's all in the way you communicate and relate to the customers. Of course I've had tons of problems with mask-lifters, but to give them the firing squad is overkill. 95% of guys will follow the rules if you talk to them properly...

Well said...but the guy could have been a little more supportive of the venue. He says he has 13 years of experience and as such SHOULD understand the problems we face every day on the field. I agree that the ref sounds like one that needs to be either trained better or if that has been tried, simply get rid of him (hasling the girls like was described is a little rough.....unless its a stinking hot day as they have had in Sydney over the last few weekends. Then it is generally welcomed by the punters to get sprayed by water as a form of heat relief).

[roland1968]

It was meant to be a great day. I had been looking forward to it all week. I wasn't after spending money to be disappointed. I wanted to try out new guns. The laws changed about a year ago and I can legally have a semi ( yes to own and take home legally). Action has a well stocked Pro shop, it was time to see what was in my price range and try them out.I play up and down the coast as a rec player so Tourneys are not my scene. Too much time and money. I like bush and speed ball fields, not just pump up balloons all the time. So I wasn't going there with the view to have a bad experience.

[Sonic]

Dude, you have to stop sounding like a naging old man around here. Give Action Paintball if you really want to make known your dissatisfaction with their service. Their telephone number is 02 9679 0011. I'm sure you can both come to some sort of amicable arrangement and I hope you can post up something more positive after this! :thumbsup:

[The Camo Kid]

kinda have to agree with sonic on this, if you have an issue with action paintball take it up with them , i think if you keep posting about it in public theres just gonna be more and more comments that arent in your favour, deal with them privately, we have all read your comments and everyones opinion varies,

let it be and if roland wants to take it further let him and action sort it out,

[CyberPunk]

I agree. It seems like Roland has a lot of reasonable complaints - but there is no need to go on about it. If action don't want to do anything about it I'm sure they don't have to. If enough people feel that way, they will just vote with their feet.

[T-unit=BJ]

Roland sounds like you want to buy an ION, give Action paintball a call for the best deals and packages around :thumbsup:

[acc1]

Roland sounds like you want to buy an ION, give Action paintball a call for the best deals and packages around :thumbsup:

I dont remember him saying that... You really need to show us were you get all these funny ideas from.. :confused:

[bunkerboy]

I dont remember him saying that... You really need to show us were you get all these funny ideas from.. :confused:
I really don't think the majority of this forum needs to see his arse acc1:no:

[T-unit=BJ]

I really don't think the majority of this forum needs to see his arse acc1:no:

Nah.....I got that idea when I was playing a game of naked twister with your mum and having a giggle about how I was gonna mow you down at Sappa :respekt:

[bunkerboy]

*yawn*

[T-unit=BJ]

hehehehehe

[The Buddhist]

you are a very strange man ben :lol:

[Mike]

I can not believe this is still going?

Look, Roland has said we suck with terribly rude staff, incorrectly filled "asian" paintballs and poorly assembled guns (but we did have good fields, um thanks for that) and I have suggested that he play somewhere better from now on. That way everybody is happy.:thumbsup:

I think that this issue is now dead, maybe a mod could close it:thumbsup:

[Bill]

Yeah, I think this has gone on long enougth.

[Knackers]

Yeah, I think this has gone on long enougth.

But wait......I havent told Mike he sucks yet:( :cry: :cry: :thumbsup:

[The Buddhist]

well...now you have knackers. So are you happy now?