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I.R.Three
11-07-2005, 08:34 PM
Whoo.. The first one to start a thread about SAPPA Rd 4. I know Rd 3 was only a week or so ago but thats old new now. Let the trash talk begin.. :clap:

SAPPA Rd 4
Sunday September 11th 2005
Adrenalin Paintball Sportz

Legs
11-07-2005, 09:37 PM
Im gonna pod bitch yo asses :cool:

Deadeye
11-07-2005, 10:49 PM
I hate trash talk :evil
Cereal Killers will be there, you can make the 1st place prize money checks out to team AGG :armed: . We can also accept eftpos, credit card, or cash (no tracking devices in the briefcase it comes in :cool:
Starring ElectroFunkster:eek:, Agsy:hammer:, lil Clegg: :bundy: , Trent :no: , and Deadeye :rolleyes:
Please have 'trophies' availible...team Aggs medal collection is full :(

Legs
12-07-2005, 08:01 AM
I hate trash talk :evil
Cereal Killers will be there, you can make the 1st place prize money cheques out to team AGG :armed: . We can accept eftpos, credit card, or cash (no tracking devices in the briefcase it comes in :cool:
Starring ElectroFunkster:eek:, Agsy:hammer:, lil Clegg: :bundy: , Trent :no: , and Deadeye :rolleyes:
Please have 'trophies' availible...team Aggs medal collection is full :(
boo

Deadeye
12-07-2005, 10:31 AM
Are you going to be our pit bitch?:D

Hardcore
12-07-2005, 12:21 PM
No need to take Aggs if he is.

Deadeye
12-07-2005, 12:27 PM
True. Ags goes for my own enjoyment. I like to watch joombies die hanously.

Hardcore
12-07-2005, 12:29 PM
"Heinously".

JJJ
12-07-2005, 12:33 PM
go SRABBLE MASTER go

Hardcore
12-07-2005, 12:38 PM
go SRABBLE MASTER go

"Scrabble".

Deadeye
12-07-2005, 01:06 PM
Im trying to motivate some Victorians to travel over for this hopefully some vic players form some teams sack up do some training and come across and offer enigma some competition:)

Rainman
12-07-2005, 01:11 PM
There are more than 2 players in Vic :eek: :eek: :eek: :p

Deadeye
12-07-2005, 01:24 PM
Any chance of more than 8 games at the event?? Its been 8 rounds since round 2 2k3 i think, and we always manage to finish really early. Im sure it would be VERY easy and doable to run 10 games..adds more incentive for interstate teams. At the last 7man events Ive been too we've had 13 prelims on most Saturdays and thats 7man so the games run for even longer and yes using only one field in most cases:)

JJJ
12-07-2005, 01:53 PM
Hmm i think they have more like 12 rounds Ethan.

Deadeye
12-07-2005, 02:18 PM
I thought it was 10 rounds with 2 byes so 8 games??

JJJ
12-07-2005, 02:50 PM
I thought it was 10 rounds with 2 byes so 8 games??

How the hell would I know. I just ask Scotty how many rounds to go before we can go home :lol:

bunkerboy
12-07-2005, 02:54 PM
Team Agg have got the only bi's...

CDG
12-07-2005, 02:54 PM
How the hell would I know. I just ask Scotty how many rounds to go before we can go home :lol:

He gets sick of us by about lunchtime.... Can we go yet, can we go yet, can we go yet..... :p

bunkerboy
12-07-2005, 02:57 PM
He gets sick of us by about lunchtime.... Can we go yet, can we go yet, can we go yet..... :p
Explains all the 4-4-1's...:p

CDG
12-07-2005, 03:05 PM
Explains all the 4-4-1's...:p


:yes: :yes: :yes: .... :lol:

P.K.
12-07-2005, 03:58 PM
61 more sleeps.
This is going to be a long thread...

bunkerboy
12-07-2005, 04:03 PM
:lol: nice one Pete, 125 pages to go...

Adamage
12-07-2005, 04:34 PM
Yep DeadEye, only 8 rounds. Reason is we only have 5 div 1 teams. You play everyone twice and get 2 bye's. SAPPA doesn't mix Div 1 and 2 so thats why it 'tis how it 'tis. Hopefully next year we get a few teams moving up into Div 1. I know Enigma will be and i'm casting my steely gaze at a few others - Rogue Elements :confused: and Cyclone :confused:

Having 7 Div 1 teams would great. We have about 12 Div 2 teams at the moment so some of you rock'n Div 2 teams should think about stepping up. Don't worry we won't smack you too hard (At least on the first game anyway :respekt: )

skip
12-07-2005, 04:39 PM
not should think about it. They should be forced to. Sandbaggin it the a result of the 12 teams in div2 and still only 5 in div 1. In my opinion its time for SAPPA to step in and force a few teams up.

CDG
12-07-2005, 06:20 PM
Yep DeadEye, only 8 rounds. Reason is we only have 5 div 1 teams. You play everyone twice and get 2 bye's. SAPPA doesn't mix Div 1 and 2 so thats why it 'tis how it 'tis. Hopefully next year we get a few teams moving up into Div 1. I know Enigma will be and i'm casting my steely gaze at a few others - Rogue Elements :confused: and Cyclone :confused:

Having 7 Div 1 teams would great. We have about 12 Div 2 teams at the moment so some of you rock'n Div 2 teams should think about stepping up. Don't worry we won't smack you too hard (At least on the first game anyway :respekt: )

Not sure how hard it would be but it would be good to have a draw that gets every Div 2 team to play at least 2 games against Div 1 teams...

It would give the Div 2 teams a taste of Div 1 and make the step up (when the time comes) not as big as they would have an idea of what to expect... but with only 2 games it would mean the Div 1 teams still play the majority of games against teams in their Divisions...

Just my thoughts....

Deadeye
12-07-2005, 10:39 PM
Thanks for the explanation Adam:)
Like your idea too CDG, depends if all the captains are fine with the format changing mid season I guess:)

TRENT
13-07-2005, 06:43 AM
Good idea CDG. Team Agg would like to play our 2 games against Enigma and ahhh Enigma.

JJJ
13-07-2005, 08:01 AM
not should think about it. They should be forced to. Sandbaggin it the a result of the 12 teams in div2 and still only 5 in div 1. In my opinion its time for SAPPA to step in and force a few teams up.


agree

Adamage
13-07-2005, 06:15 PM
STOP PRESS

SAPPA has just ordered a shiny new sup air field. 19 peice kit thanks to our friends at Tomahawk Paintball. It should be here before round 4. :thumbsup:

Not just any field. The same field they use at the Millenium Series (minus the big M)

SAPPA purchased it at a fantastic reduced price, and with the option of paying it off over the next 18 months.

This is a major win for SAPPA, and its members. SAPPA will be looking at options where members and other parties may rent the field.

So come round 4 we should all be playing on an international spec field. I can't wait. :D

Legs
13-07-2005, 06:26 PM
Yay SAPPA! :clap:

Good stuff :thumbsup:

wicky
13-07-2005, 06:53 PM
a big whooaahh to sappa well done to all committee members ADAM, travis ,WADE ,etc.

Markuss
14-07-2005, 07:02 AM
Top stuff Adam. Great work.

MG1100
14-07-2005, 09:53 PM
Well done SAPPA and also Tomahawk

ionjim
14-07-2005, 10:04 PM
Yeah good work SAPPA. Cant wait to play on it at round 4 :clap:

Coff33
15-07-2005, 02:21 PM
i'm casting my steely gaze at a few others - Rogue Elements :confused: ...

huh this is our first sappa season eva... hehe... we'll see what happens still 2 rounds to go.. :thumbsup:

JJJ
15-07-2005, 02:26 PM
Obviously ENIGMA could step up but remember ECLIPSE will likely be playing 1 or 2 of these comps next season.

bunkerboy
15-07-2005, 02:40 PM
Yes we obviously could and we most definately are, no two ways about it.

P.K.
15-07-2005, 05:18 PM
but remember ECLIPSE will likely be playing 1 or 2 of these comps next season.

Who is Eclipse?

I thought they changed their name to REFS.

CDG
15-07-2005, 05:39 PM
Who is Eclipse?

I thought they changed their name to REFS.

:cry: :hammer: :cry:

Studio 54
20-07-2005, 10:36 AM
Cyclone don't even consistantly place in the top 3!

Inferences to us being sandbaggers is met with a big :thumbsdow ;)

Wade.

Studio 54
20-07-2005, 11:12 AM
now with my committee hat on..........

There is a definate lack of Div 1 teams at the moment, totally agree. We knew that at the start of the season, and for those at the AGM they would have heard that the committee were expecting it to be this way this season.

As an association we implemented a couple of changes this year to entice more rookie teams in an attempt to help SAPPA expand and grow. To me this is why we have 12 teams in Div 2 - 6 of them are 1st year rookies! So to me, the argument about Div 2 being too large and full of sandbaggers is baseless.

We knew Div 1 was going to have slim pickings this year, especially after losing 2 of the teams - Damage not playing and Total Eclipse have been reff'ing. It was always going to be a big picture outlook for Div 1.

I think it is fair to say that once you have picked up 1st place for a season you should step up, I beleive that is already a SAPPA edict. Similarly, I think if you pick up 2nd or 3rd for the season over a couple of years you should also step up. No arguments there.

From memory it was decided to keep Div 1 and 2 games seperate to avoid the constant arguments from Div 2 teams on tourny day who had to play more games against Div 1 teams and therefore thought they were at a disadvantage points wise than some other Div 2 teams that didn't play as many Div 1 games.

Anyway, I really ask the Div 1 teams to be patient, there will obviously be 2 or 3 new teams next year and then hopefully at least the same the year after.......I know you get sick of me saying it, but look at the big picture and the development of the sport for years to come, not just the next tourny. I know the committee really appreciate all Div 1 teams and their continued support of the Association

Well done to all members of the Association on the purchase of our 1st Sup Air Field......gave me great pleasure as Treasurer to fork out the coin on that one!

Sorry to make you read all that guys...you should expect it....you know by now though that I'm the boring one........ ;)

TRENT
20-07-2005, 11:55 AM
Cool. What bunkers does the field contain?

Also I think the reason the div 2 teams dont wanna step up that they are afraid of being smacked. Playing good teams lifts your game and you learn heaps. The sappas I have heard of finished nice and early due to the great work of refs this year so more games would be a good possibilty. Im sure a draw could be organised so each team played an equal amount of teams in div below and above there division.

Just my thoughts.

Flip
20-07-2005, 12:41 PM
All going well will have another new team over for Rd 4 at least. Would like to play the Div 1 teams...bunkering Ethan and Trent wont be possible if we dont :whip: Div 2 is where we belong with 7 mths experience max in the team however if we do ok Div 1 is where to improve our game and hope to be there soon. :clap: well I do :thumbsup:

JJJ
20-07-2005, 01:19 PM
There is only 1 team I have seen in Div 2 who would be consistently competitive in Div1 & enough has been said on that topic.

But thats not to say a team like Tyto with this year under their belt couldnt step up but they would need an equipment upgrade too.

JJJ
21-07-2005, 07:05 AM
now with my committee hat on..........

.............Well done to all members of the Association on the purchase of our 1st Sup Air Field......gave me great pleasure as Treasurer to fork out the coin on that one!.................. ;)

Will the next newsletter indicate the cost of this purchase?

Also where will it be stored? i.e with the equipment officer?

Chief Wiggum
21-07-2005, 06:29 PM
I do believe that the price was mentioned at the end of Round 3 during the presentations.

I think that Gazza should store it, I have forgotten who the equipment officer is?

ionjim
21-07-2005, 07:06 PM
I dont know about TYTO stepping up to div 1. Maybe just a couple more seasons in div 2. :lol:

Legs
21-07-2005, 07:11 PM
I dont know about TYTO stepping up to div 1. Maybe just a couple more seasons in div 2. :lol:
Sandbagging bastard :rant:

ionjim
21-07-2005, 07:25 PM
Looks like you might be playing with the big boys next year Legs :p

Legs
21-07-2005, 07:55 PM
I was hoping to play div.1 next year anyway, so meh.. :D

I didn't actually find div.2 all that thrilling... :o

ionjim
21-07-2005, 08:13 PM
suit yourself, i like it just fine in div 2 where there is only 300 balls in the air at a time instead of about 2000 in div 1. i take my hat off to anyone stepping out into a div 1 game :respekt:

JJJ
22-07-2005, 07:36 AM
I do believe that the price was mentioned at the end of Round 3 during the presentations.

I think that Gazza should store it, I have forgotten who the equipment officer is?

Not all members attend round 3 or the presentation so hopefuly this will be detailed in the newsletter.

I think Gary E is the equipment officer

Studio 54
22-07-2005, 08:54 AM
Gaz is the equipment officer and details will be in the upcoming newsletter. Tomahawk were very generous is all i'll say here.

wicky
26-07-2005, 05:17 PM
ok lets have some predictions for round 4 people,AM i think tyto will do well enema will probably win rogue slayers or cyclone will be there also. pro shit take your pick any of the 5 teams could win hopefully the nightshade massive can do it.

Legs
26-07-2005, 05:28 PM
PRO
1st Welt
2nd Kaoz
3rd Nightshade
4th Victorious..or however the spelling goes :o
5th Tsunami

AM
1st Enigma
2nd Tyto
3rd Rogue Slayers
4th Cyclone


Hard to tip the rest because some may not turn up :confused:
And yes, I SERIOUSLY think Tyto can pull off 2nd if they put their mind to it. :thumbsup:

knuckles.
26-07-2005, 08:23 PM
im with you legs. tyto have had a 5th, 3rd, 4th and looking for a 2nd placing in rnd 4. :thumbsup:

knuckles.
26-07-2005, 08:25 PM
does any one know if there will be a camera man a round 4?

Adamage
26-07-2005, 08:31 PM
Not all members attend round 3 or the presentation so hopefuly this will be detailed in the newsletter.

I think Gary E is the equipment officer

Well, if all the members did hang around for presentations they would have been told!!! Any yes all relevant details will be in the newsletter.

Smiley
26-07-2005, 09:15 PM
any vic teams flying in virgin blue has a sale on over that weekend $69 each way

JJJ
27-07-2005, 07:46 AM
Well, if all the members did hang around for presentations they would have been told!!! Any yes all relevant details will be in the newsletter.

Regardless not all SAPPA members attend the round either.

P.K.
27-07-2005, 09:49 AM
AM
1st Enigma
2nd Tyto
3rd Rogue Slayers
4th Cyclone


Damn we didnt even make the top 4, might have to go fishing that weekend.

P.K.
27-07-2005, 09:55 AM
does any one know if there will be a camera man a round 4?
what ever happened to Travis?

JJJ
27-07-2005, 09:58 AM
AM
1 - Enigma
2 - Tyto
3 - Ballistic
4 - Sudden Impact

CDG
27-07-2005, 10:03 AM
what ever happened to Travis?

Don't think enough people bought his Videos/DVD's to make it worth his while...

P.K.
27-07-2005, 12:05 PM
AM
1 - Enigma
2 - Tyto
3 - Ballistic
4 - Sudden Impact

:clap: :clap: :clap:
Better cancel that fishing trip, things are looking up.

CDG
27-07-2005, 12:18 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Better cancel that fishing trip, things are looking up.

It was those new Kaner systems that made the difference.... ;)

The Don
27-07-2005, 06:04 PM
And yes, I SERIOUSLY think Tyto can pull off 2nd if they put their mind to it. :thumbsup:
Legs, your not looking for a spot on Tyto for round 4 are you :confused: :lol:
If you keep these comments up, we may let you fill our pods :clap:

Legs
27-07-2005, 06:20 PM
Legs, your not looking for a spot on Tyto for round 4 are you :confused: :lol:
If you keep these comments up, we may let you fill our pods :clap:
maybe i will just play as a 6th player for enema instead. :D
Sit out 9 games and play one :(

The Don
27-07-2005, 06:24 PM
maybe i will just play as a 6th player for enema instead. :D
Sit out 9 games and play one :(

As long as that one game is against Tyto :evil :)

bunkerboy
27-07-2005, 07:46 PM
Hands off our bitch you bunch of "bitch-poaching" bastolis....:D

JJJ
28-07-2005, 07:58 AM
Legs, your not looking for a spot on Tyto for round 4 are you :confused: :lol:
If you keep these comments up, we may let you fill our pods :clap:


At least if he fills your pods it will be with a number 1 medal around his neck :kiss:

Studio 54
30-07-2005, 06:56 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Better cancel that fishing trip, things are looking up.

looks like cyclone's going fishing instead ;)

Grant
31-07-2005, 10:08 AM
div 1
1st place- cereal killers (if they attend) :thumbsup:

Chief Wiggum
31-07-2005, 10:36 AM
Hope they do.

Come on Vic, book those virgin blue flights and get over here, make Div 1 a bit more exciting.

ionjim
31-07-2005, 03:05 PM
We want big steve! We want big steve! We want big steve!

JJJ
31-07-2005, 03:59 PM
We want big steve! We want big steve! We want big steve!

I am sure Big Steve will be coming but he doesnt play for C.K

Legs
31-07-2005, 04:03 PM
Big Steve pwns

Big Steve
31-07-2005, 07:56 PM
We want big steve! We want big steve! We want big steve!
Flights have already been booked :thumbsup: now I just need to arrange a team :thumbsdow So far the only Vic interested in playing with me is T-Unit BJ so I am scrambling for more players now. :help:

bunkerboy
31-07-2005, 08:01 PM
Ask Hardcore, I'm sure he'd jump at the chance...

Big Steve
31-07-2005, 09:08 PM
Except Hardcore is a Sydney boy not a Vic.

Where is rnd 4 being held? I need to book accommodation

bunkerboy
31-07-2005, 09:10 PM
Fussy bastard...

Big Steve
10-08-2005, 05:33 PM
Only 1 month to go :angel:

So which teams are attending???

Where is it being held this time???

ionjim
10-08-2005, 05:46 PM
TYTO will be attending :armed: and i think it will be held at Adrenelain.

bunkerboy
10-08-2005, 06:21 PM
No, I heard it was going to be held at Adrenaline...:o

OFS
10-08-2005, 06:23 PM
No, I heard it was going to be held at Adrenaline...:o
i heard it was adrenalin paintball sportz :yes:

ionjim
10-08-2005, 06:36 PM
whatever

knuckles.
10-08-2005, 06:57 PM
dont care where its at. i got a felling that your going down this torney bunkerboy. :hammer:

Kymbo
10-08-2005, 07:12 PM
the cost to enter this tourney :cool:

Legs
10-08-2005, 07:14 PM
No, I heard it was going to be held at Adrenaline...:o
no.. it IS adrenalin.

Silly bunkerslut

Deadeye
10-08-2005, 07:14 PM
me wants to play.

Legs
10-08-2005, 07:18 PM
me wants to play.
If you make a team i will play in div.1 with ya.

Not pod bitch, play
might keep benches warm for 2 or 3 games, but i will play

if you're desperate :(

Deadeye
10-08-2005, 07:44 PM
I dont think you could afford Ags or my salaries :lol:

Legs
10-08-2005, 07:53 PM
I dont think you could afford Ags or my salaries :lol:
I will bring chicks then :p

JJJ
11-08-2005, 07:46 AM
the cost to enter this tourney :cool:

Pm Adamage. I thinks its around $250-300 for a Div 1 team? Less for Div 2

bunkerboy
11-08-2005, 02:57 PM
i got a feeling that your going down this torney bunkerboy. :hammer:
About time too...

Kymbo
11-08-2005, 03:16 PM
round 4, how many team memders are needed, as this is our first tourney
:clap:

Kymbo
11-08-2005, 03:27 PM
Pm Adamage. I thinks its around $250-300 for a Div 1 team? Less for Div 2


cheers Adam :thumbsup:

JJJ
11-08-2005, 03:33 PM
once they post the entry forms it will have the prices in there

Deadeye
11-08-2005, 03:49 PM
U need 5 players Detonator.

Kymbo
11-08-2005, 05:02 PM
U need 5 players Detonator.

cheers. will have to recruit 2 more then :thumbsup:

Adamage
11-08-2005, 07:05 PM
Hi Guys,

Yes everyone is getting itchy feet.

Round 4 is at Adrenalin Paintball Sportz, South Rd, Hackham.

Prices,

Div 1 $350
Div 2 $300
Rookie (1st year playing SAPPA) $250

Newsletter under construction, all relevant details will be in it.

ciao

|{ao7ec]-[
11-08-2005, 08:34 PM
how many games will the div 1 teams get this time.....?

I.R.Three
14-08-2005, 07:28 PM
-[']how many games will the div 1 teams get this time.....?

All depends on how many teams enter in that division. Usually get 5 teams and every one plays each other twice with 2 byes..

So what teams are playing this Rd. This will by far be the best round ever that SAPPA has put on.
If all goes will be playing on brand new Sup-air field, grass at field is growing awsome.. and if anything like past few rounds, 16 teams.. :thumbsup: :clap:

So what teams....
DIV 1
Welt

Who else??

Big Steve
14-08-2005, 08:43 PM
Team Iron Bob's Longmen looks like a certainty for div 2 :armed: :dance:

Legs
14-08-2005, 08:55 PM
Team Iron Bob's Longmen looks like a certainty for div 2 :armed: :dance:
Can I just call you guys IBL? :(

Chief Wiggum
20-08-2005, 02:58 PM
Div 1 Nightshade will be there for sure.

The Don
20-08-2005, 03:31 PM
TYTO's nomination form was sent in today for Div 2 :thumbsup:

Chief Wiggum, will Tomahawk be selling paint on the day like round 3?

bunkerboy
20-08-2005, 07:14 PM
Don't bother Don, we'll give you our balls...hmm, that didn't come out the right way some how:no:

The Don
20-08-2005, 07:22 PM
I should know better than to ask a serious question :)

Chief Wiggum
20-08-2005, 08:45 PM
Tomahawk will be there selling on the day, send them an email first and pre order if you can. I think they are bringing up premium pink which shoots straight as, and marks very well.

The only bad news is I dont think the supair field will arrive in time for this round. They tell me that its on the ship, just depends how long it takes for the ship to get here.

Cant wait for this round. D1 has been real close all year and it will be a great battle I feel.

The Don
20-08-2005, 09:15 PM
Thanks Chief


Cant wait for this round. D1 has been real close all year and it will be a great battle I feel.
We cant wait for this round either. Div 2 has been close with no team unbeatable. :armed:
Overall points have 4 teams in the race for a podium finish :yes:

ionjim
20-08-2005, 09:40 PM
lets hope tyto can get up over enigma this time

OFS
20-08-2005, 10:00 PM
lets hope tyto can get up over enigma this time
im pumped and ready to pwn some legs :yes:

ionjim
20-08-2005, 10:08 PM
im pumped and ready to pwn some legs :yes:
Ill second that :lol:

Legs
20-08-2005, 10:27 PM
If it's a repeat of training i believe that tyto will be getting a nice score of 0 against us

ionjim
20-08-2005, 10:28 PM
I seem to recall training being a fairly even contest all day

knuckles.
21-08-2005, 09:58 AM
only three weeks to go... :clap: are there any new teams that are entering this round?

Adamage
21-08-2005, 06:25 PM
Have spoken to a few interested parties, but i think we will have a few possible teams coming down to check us out before they dive in the deep end.

Flip
23-08-2005, 02:06 PM
only three weeks to go... :clap: are there any new teams that are entering this round?
Yes :evil

Chief Wiggum
23-08-2005, 03:29 PM
Nice one.

Flip
25-08-2005, 07:12 AM
CSSA Legion has confirmed their flights and entry is going in today :thumbsup: Looking fwd to some SA hospitality.

T-unit=BJ
25-08-2005, 08:58 AM
Croatian, Serbian, Samoan, Australia legion....... am I close Flip ??

Flip
25-08-2005, 10:22 AM
Croatian, Serbian, Samoan, Australia legion....... am I close Flip ??
:lol: word is getting around....your correct...who blabbed?. Vlad didnt want to play for the Croatian Legion but is happy to play with two Croats :rolleyes: so we added the Serbian...decided to add Samoan as we were scared of Joey and what he might do if he snapped :rant: and finally didnt want to leave Daniel out :thumbsup: Looking fwd to a fun day. :clap:

:armed: Croatian Serbian Samoan Australian Legion :armed:

T-unit=BJ
25-08-2005, 10:45 AM
No one said anything I just worked it out

Big Joey is a very cool man, but I would not want to pissed him off either he almost benched pressed Big Steve, but his hands kept sinking in and slipping a bit.

Motel room antic's .......

P.K.
25-08-2005, 06:24 PM
CSSA Legion has confirmed their flights and entry is going in today :thumbsup: Looking fwd to some SA hospitality.

I'm sure there will be some hospitality coming your way...

Do you have a preference of brand? we'll be throwing RPS at you :lol:

Adamage
25-08-2005, 08:19 PM
Right o people!! it's going to be a pretty quiet tournament cause i have only got 3 entry forms in. Looks like Welt and Night Shade will be duking it out for Div 1 While TYTO have got Div 2 all to their own!

At least we will finished before lunch.

Lets get those entries in!!

CDG
25-08-2005, 09:39 PM
Right o people!! it's going to be a pretty quiet tournament cause i have only got 3 entry forms in. Looks like Welt and Night Shade will be duking it out for Div 1 While TYTO have got Div 2 all to their own!

At least we will finished before lunch.

Lets get those entries in!!

WooHoo.... short day.... :clap:

We still get paid right...? :(

Big Steve
25-08-2005, 11:00 PM
Sorry CDG but we have at least 2 Victorian teams coming over to complicate things (and overball the refs :p ) You might have to earn your money after all :lol:

|{ao7ec]-[
25-08-2005, 11:25 PM
Right o people!! it's going to be a pretty quiet tournament cause i have only got 3 entry forms in. Looks like Welt and Night Shade will be duking it out for Div 1 While TYTO have got Div 2 all to their own!

At least we will finished before lunch.

Lets get those entries in!!

looks like kaoz will be saving thier pennys for the nightshade clinic at kuipo.

Flip
26-08-2005, 06:06 AM
I'm sure there will be some hospitality coming your way...

Do you have a preference of brand? we'll be throwing RPS at you :lol:

No preference anything is fine :) will bring some chronic to the party...just need drinks :thumbsup:

P.K.
26-08-2005, 06:46 PM
Lets get those entries in!!

Its coming, just got to confirm player number 5.

Flip
01-09-2005, 06:22 AM
So how many teams have their entries in so far and who are they? CSSA Legion are in.

Big Steve
01-09-2005, 09:47 AM
Iron Bob's longmen have got their form in :thumbsup:

So Victorian first and second Flip?? :armed:

Are you bringing a spare rail to this tourny or are you setting up at far, far end of the compound from me?? :mad: :help: :hammer:

Coff33
01-09-2005, 11:24 AM
Rogue Elements are in :D

Big Steve
01-09-2005, 11:36 AM
This is probably pushing my luck but is there any chance of field layout before the tourny?????

Deadeye
01-09-2005, 11:58 AM
Nope. Grr wish I was playing. Bank account is empty though as Im off to malaysia :clap: Ill try make round 5 fo sho.

Scooter
01-09-2005, 11:59 AM
Money $hot is in too !

We've got markers and 5 men this time round so we may be able offer a little more competition than last time :clap:

bunkerboy
01-09-2005, 03:20 PM
You guys did awesome considering. You're always welcome to come and do some training with us:thumbsup:
Oh yeah, we're in too.

Deadeye
01-09-2005, 03:50 PM
Will Enigma take 1st again?
Will Legs get overshot?
Will CSSA crush div 2?
Will Welt win Div 1 again?

Look forward to hearing the results!

T-unit=BJ
01-09-2005, 04:09 PM
CSSA Farking rock thats my boyz on that team

bunkerboy
01-09-2005, 04:14 PM
That's nice dear :yawn:

P.K.
01-09-2005, 06:12 PM
Money $hot is in too !

We've got markers and 5 men this time round so we may be able offer a little more competition than last time :clap:


Buggar, they've got 5 now.

Gonna have to try a bit harder then. :yes:

Oh yeah, we got all five now and the entry is in :thumbsup:

Flip
01-09-2005, 06:27 PM
Iron Bob's longmen have got their form in :thumbsup:

So Victorian first and second Flip?? :armed:

Are you bringing a spare rail to this tourny or are you setting up at far, far end of the compound from me?? :mad: :help: :hammer:

I am setting up far far away...you cant afford to keep breaking markers....as for the placing...nah I dont think so...the results were already posted(see below)...were going for fun :thumbsup:

AM
1 - Enigma
2 - Tyto
3 - Ballistic
4 - Sudden Impact

Mugger
01-09-2005, 08:17 PM
Will Enigma take 1st again?
Will Legs get overshot?

yes, i think they will continue to sandbagg the div 2's.

Deadeye
01-09-2005, 08:20 PM
Mugger who r u? do u know Skip?

strife
01-09-2005, 08:49 PM
cyclone will beat balistic and sudden impact

strife
01-09-2005, 09:07 PM
any word on the new supair field. will it be here and ready??

JJJ
02-09-2005, 08:25 AM
any news on the promised news letter which will disclose the details on the new field?

Legs
03-09-2005, 05:33 PM
Will there be another Tomahawk stand? :confused:
Me wanna buy things :D

Chief Wiggum
03-09-2005, 08:10 PM
Yes there will be a Tomahawk Stand, lots 'o' goodies. :thumbsup:

From what I have heard, there is a container of clothes and gear on the way. :bow:

Adamage
04-09-2005, 07:36 AM
Teams registered for round 4

Night Shade
Welt

Rogue Elements
CSSA Legion
Cyclone
Money Shot
Enigma
Ballistic
Iron Bobs Longmen
TYTO
Kronic (still waiting on paperwork)

If your team is not on this list and your playing round 4 please download an entry form from the Dates and Results Thread and email to me at burns.a@optusnet.com.au
I need all entries before Wednseday 7th, so we can organise the draw and get the catering organised. So please ASAP. Thanks heaps.

I.R.Three
04-09-2005, 07:10 PM
Teams registered for round 4

Night Shade
Welt

Whats going on here?? :confused:

Come on Kaoz, Victorous and Tsnamumi.. Get enteries in.. Anyone one else wanna play with us in Div 1?? :evil

Chief Wiggum
04-09-2005, 07:24 PM
It will be a quick day for us Trav.

P.K.
04-09-2005, 09:33 PM
Can we play both? :clap:

Adamage
05-09-2005, 05:48 PM
Have confirmation on following teams now

Night Shade
Welt
Kaoz
Tsunami
Victorious

Rogue Elements
CSSA Legion
Cyclone
Money Shot
Enigma
Ballistic
Iron Bobs Longmen
TYTO
Kronic (still waiting on paperwork)

Could the following teams let me know whether or not they are playing??

Sudden Impact
Young guns
Wicked Clowns
Bad company
Death Squad

Thanks

JJJ
06-09-2005, 08:04 AM
14 teams is good. 19 will be tough on us poor refs

Souse
06-09-2005, 12:45 PM
nice turn out, 19 would be good to see

driftn_S6
06-09-2005, 03:55 PM
What time do things kick off this Sunday??

Legs
06-09-2005, 04:00 PM
What time do things kick off this Sunday??
Really, really early.. :(

driftn_S6
06-09-2005, 04:06 PM
Really, really early.. :(



What time we talkin??

Can I have a big one sat nite..... :beer: :beer:

Miguel
06-09-2005, 04:10 PM
SURE! Go ahead, :beer: up. :bundy: ;)
Start is around 8ish :yawn:

driftn_S6
06-09-2005, 04:18 PM
Hhhhmmmm mite have a quiet one then :kiss: :kiss:

Well if it starts at round 8 then i guess ill be there then. :thumbsup:

OFS
06-09-2005, 04:19 PM
id get there early to set up. say 7:30 :) my new marker needs alot of work on it and i dont get it till sunday morning :(

Deadeye
06-09-2005, 04:20 PM
Ummmm OFS someone else seems to have fallen into your biography picture in your sig lol

Legs
06-09-2005, 04:21 PM
I tried telling him that already :(

OFS
06-09-2005, 04:23 PM
Ummmm OFS someone else seems to have fallen into your biography picture in your sig lol
meh.. i dont have any pics of me playin so i improvised :yes:

Deadeye
06-09-2005, 04:23 PM
is there going to be good grudge match between tyto and enigma?
Legs vs OFS. The winner shal be less unrespected, the loser taunted until my lungs are sore.

Mugger
06-09-2005, 04:25 PM
will there be 1900psi fills there like last time?

Legs
06-09-2005, 04:25 PM
I don't want your respect, ethan :p
I'm sure OFS will be ya buddy though..


That, of course, doesn't mean that he is gonna beat me :o




if i play that round... :(

OFS
06-09-2005, 04:25 PM
is there going to be good grudge match between tyto and enigma?
Legs vs OFS. The winner shal be less unrespected, the loser taunted until my lungs are sore.
hmm that'd be nice.. your lungs being sore that is

OFS
06-09-2005, 04:26 PM
I don't want your respect, ethan :p
I'm sure OFS will be ya buddy though..


That, of course, doesn't mean that he is gonna beat me :o




if i play that round... :(
all i can say legs is.. bring it

Deadeye
06-09-2005, 04:33 PM
I don't want your respect, ethan :p


I would never offer you respect.

Read carefully..

I said less disrespect.

Mugger
06-09-2005, 04:35 PM
any news on the new field yet? and will there be trophies and prizes?

Legs
06-09-2005, 04:35 PM
I would never offer you respect.

Read carefully..

I said less disrespect.
Oh go leak some air out of ya barrel every time ya shoot...


:D

EDIT: Ah yes... and technically if you are offering to decrease the unrespectedness, your respect would be rising.

so.... i dont want your respect :p
That shit made no sense :(

OFS
06-09-2005, 04:38 PM
Oh go leak some air out of ya barrel every time ya shoot...


:D
that was harsh but i thought it was his grip. ;) i guess i cant talk with my blender and all :(

Mugger
06-09-2005, 04:40 PM
leave it to pm's. trying to find out some info here!

Legs
06-09-2005, 04:46 PM
My apologies, clone :fu:

Adamage
06-09-2005, 05:59 PM
Right, here is a bit of an update for you all.

Get there early!! :hammer: Captains meeting at 8am. First game 9am.

Our new Tomahawk field is still on the boat and won't be here for anothe two weeks!!! Bugger :mad:

Due to the big storm last week the air field at Adrenalin suffered some damage, we have begged and borrowed for more pieces and thanks to our friends at Skirmish SA, Kaoz and www.propaintballshop.com.au we will have a min'n'match air filed. Much respect to those guys. :thumbsup:
So with that in mind the field won't be set up / inflated until the sunday morning. We don't want the winds ripping the field to pieces again. :no:

We would love it if people could lend a hand in the morning to set up. Travis from team Welt has been doing a bang up job of organising the field thus far so if you want to help out see him in the morning.

Word to the wise.... if you help set up the field you get a better idea of the layout .... hmmm enough said.

We will be holding a minutes silence ON the field before the first game as a mark of respect for the passing of Scot Stokes. BE THERE!! Black armbands of respect may be worn by players and refferees for this round.

Below is now what looks like to be the final draw. 16 teams in all.

I'll be taking registrations and payments inside the admin area from 7am. Do it early beacause I PLAY TOO!!! Thanks :thumbsup:

Night Shade
Welt
Kaoz
Tsunami
Victorious

Rogue Elements
CSSA Legion
Cyclone
Money Shot
Enigma
Ballistic
Iron Bobs Longmen
TYTO
Kronic
Young Guns
Sudden Impact

Deadeye
06-09-2005, 06:18 PM
No no legs. Trust me when I say there is NO respect just disrespect:lol:

Legs
06-09-2005, 06:21 PM
Get outta my thread, ethan

JJJ
07-09-2005, 07:37 AM
How about SAPPA players also self-check your bottles to ensure no one has any of the recalled bottles in operation

Deadeye
07-09-2005, 12:37 PM
There hasn't been a recall in Australia JJJ so they are cool to use ..

Ok my tips are hmm Victorious 1st, Welt 2nd, kaoz 3rd
Hard to tip sappa ppl go from top to bottom and back to top again all the time.

blacky
07-09-2005, 12:54 PM
yeah its Welts turn for 4th again :rolleyes:

Deadeye
07-09-2005, 12:57 PM
U cant discrase CK like that Blacky:D

TRENT
07-09-2005, 02:10 PM
There is going to be a member of CK on 3 of the teams. Should be an interesting tourney.

Markuss
07-09-2005, 03:05 PM
Always bet on Blue and Black. :armed: :armed: :armed: :armed: :armed:

I.R.Three
07-09-2005, 09:06 PM
Always bet on Blue and Black. :armed: :armed: :armed: :armed: :armed:

Yeah.. That what colour you Nightshade boys will be when we finish with you's.. :lol:

Mugger
07-09-2005, 10:11 PM
teams with Ck members will finish 1, 2, and 3

Markuss
08-09-2005, 08:45 AM
You might want to change your name from Welt to Welts cause you will be sporting some this weekend. :lol:

wicky
08-09-2005, 05:46 PM
Yeah.. That what colour you Nightshade boys will be when we finish with you's.. :lol:
:no:

Mugger
08-09-2005, 07:22 PM
your trash talk is worse than your game!
Why dont Lampshade keep their name and the sunflowers can keep theirs

Deadeye
08-09-2005, 08:06 PM
You better play well Skip or ur gonna get alot of crap lol

TRENT
08-09-2005, 08:12 PM
Kaos should bench him for skipping out on them to play for CK at AXL.

Markuss
08-09-2005, 08:25 PM
If thats you skip I'm gonna bash ya and take your Proto. Rip ya HK stickers off and I'm gonna put your bitch grips on my Matrix.

Deadeye
08-09-2005, 08:39 PM
haha owned skip:D

Big Steve
08-09-2005, 09:27 PM
So which ck player is playing for which team?????

Deadeye
09-09-2005, 08:23 AM
Skip/Mugger - Kaoz
Blacky/Ninja - Welt
Trent - Victorious

Deadeye
11-09-2005, 09:24 AM
Wonder who is winning, so bored.

Kymbo
11-09-2005, 09:32 AM
not sure will be going down there soon :thumbsup:

Deadeye
11-09-2005, 01:55 PM
Hmm should be finished by now. *Grabs phone.

Bitches have their phones off. Who won?

Deadeye
11-09-2005, 04:57 PM
Ok my tips are hmm Victorious 1st, Welt 2nd, kaos 3rd
Hard to tip sappa ppl go from top to bottom and back to top again all the time.

OMG I am the king of paintball match tipping. Next time you guys dont even need to turn up. You submit your rosters and Ill post on here how everyone would have gone in they had hypothetically shown to the event. :cool:

Legs
11-09-2005, 06:17 PM
Div.1
1st Victorious
2nd Welt
3rd Kaoz
4th Tsunami
5th Nightshade

Div.2
1st Enigma
2nd Rogue Elements
3rd Cyclone
4th Ballistic
5th TYTO


Thats all I remember :thumbsup:

Legs
11-09-2005, 06:36 PM
Some shots taken by me :D

Legs
11-09-2005, 06:38 PM
more

bunkerboy
11-09-2005, 06:39 PM
Where's the photo of you Legs, you know, the one of you in the deadbox...the ONLY photo of you that was taken all day:lol:

Legs
11-09-2005, 06:41 PM
more :D

Souse
11-09-2005, 06:42 PM
who plays on team victorious

Legs
11-09-2005, 06:43 PM
Yeah..I get hit out right near the end of a game..the only game I get hit out...
Then my mum decides to take a picture. My mums pictures are poopoo :(

Deadeye
11-09-2005, 06:43 PM
Who was Iron Bob Longmens 5th, i see will, bushy, steve, and hideous.

Legs
11-09-2005, 06:44 PM
More pictures were taken on Donnas(tyto) camera.........

Deadeye
11-09-2005, 06:44 PM
who plays on team victorious


Umm trying to remember I think this tourny it was Pete Spencer, Trent, Tabby, Bewick and Kim.

Legs
11-09-2005, 06:46 PM
lol.....

OFS
11-09-2005, 06:53 PM
some pics of me and my old man on TYTO :)

OFS
11-09-2005, 06:54 PM
lol.....
hah nice one :thumbsup:

Legs
11-09-2005, 07:59 PM
:thumbsup:

Deadeye
11-09-2005, 08:04 PM
idiot.

Mugger
11-09-2005, 08:41 PM
Ck members all in the top 3.................

Mugger
11-09-2005, 08:42 PM
legs where is all the good photos?

Legs
11-09-2005, 09:33 PM
legs where is all the good photos?
there are none:p

The Don
12-09-2005, 06:17 AM
Testing....

The Don
12-09-2005, 06:29 AM
Ballistic :thumbsup:

The Don
12-09-2005, 06:39 AM
Tyto :armed: :armed:

The Don
12-09-2005, 06:47 AM
Still more...

TRENT
12-09-2005, 06:49 AM
It was a really good sappa in the pro division. Some very close games and some great comebacks from being played down on some teams. The field was great and played very well in div 1 with some very quick games. The Ams however tended to bunker down and throw paint.

The Don
12-09-2005, 06:57 AM
More Tyto :clap: :clap: :clap:
Last photo to show my foot in the air, can i call that running?? :p

Hideous
12-09-2005, 07:12 AM
News Flash

Big Steve plays front !!! :bow: :bow:

Numerous times during play Big Steve pushed up and was front man !!!

Second news flash: I was spotted RUNNING and bunkering... naturally i can barely walk today :) :) :dance: :dance:

All CGI tanks were checked and tagged by Organisers before any filling was done by Martin H - who spent most of at the compressor ( boring )
My CGI was a goody.

Had a fine day with Bob longs Ironmen.. it's hard to break years of habit when you have 5 backmen playing together. :eek: :eek:

Many thanks for Eclipse for Umpiring, and when are those sandbaggers moving to Div 1 ?

JJJ
12-09-2005, 07:58 AM
It was a really good sappa in the pro division. Some very close games and some great comebacks from being played down on some teams. The field was great and played very well in div 1 with some very quick games. The Ams however tended to bunker down and throw paint.

and how about those refs Trent :thumbsup:


News Flash

Big Steve plays front !!! :bow: :bow:

Numerous times during play Big Steve pushed up and was front man !!!



Big Steve played well :thumbsup:

JJJ
12-09-2005, 11:24 AM
Oh and just for the record - Total Eclipse donated the referree fee's for the event to Scotty Stokes family

TRENT
12-09-2005, 11:40 AM
Yeah the refs where good as well. Except the ref near me. I think he had small man syndrome. :whip:

Souse
12-09-2005, 11:49 AM
Oh and just for the record - Total Eclipse donated the referree fee's for the event to Scotty Stokes family


:thumbsup: :respekt: :clap:

silent bob
12-09-2005, 11:54 AM
well done indeed...........

P.K.
12-09-2005, 12:25 PM
Oh and just for the record - Total Eclipse donated the referree fee's for the event to Scotty Stokes family

:respekt: :respekt: :respekt:

bunkerboy
12-09-2005, 03:21 PM
...and when are those sandbaggers moving to Div 1 ?
One more tourney and we're done...


Thanks again and well done to all the usual suspects, you know who you are and what you did:thumbsup:

@ Flip: Don't be so rough with your barrel swabs:p
@ P.K: Get a real marker that works:D
@ Legs: Don't borrow other peoples markers thinking you're gonna have a blast with it only to find out the hopper batteries are flat:no:

Legs
12-09-2005, 03:40 PM
@ Legs: Don't borrow other peoples markers thinking you're gonna have a blast with it only to find out the hopper batteries are flat:no:
Skip :mad:

JJJ
12-09-2005, 03:54 PM
@ Legs: Don't borrow other peoples markers thinking you're gonna have a blast with it only to find out the hopper batteries are flat:no:

whats the problem - I still managed to shoot the head ref Robbie with it at the end of the day

Flip
12-09-2005, 03:58 PM
@ Flip: Don't be so rough with your barrel swabs:p

Damn swab! I knew it wasnt our day. Breaking off in the barrel was a lucky break for you guys :D Well done to the winners...sorry we all had to leave so fast however we all made it to the airport on time :thumbsup:
Thanks to the Reffs for a great job and a enjoyable day and Adam for moving our last game fwd.
Whoever little Luke belongs too....cool kid :thumbsup:

blacky
12-09-2005, 04:56 PM
thanks to adam and the sappa commitee for all the work, few setbacks and possiblity of a rain out but it all came together,

Refs what can I say, not sure whats worse refffing in the heat and humidity or now the freezing cold and rain, you guys have done it all this year and I dont think enough can be said about the effort you put in

my great friends that make up team Welt was a blast as always to play on the same team, Trav, Tom, Ninja, Laurence (and Mel :respekt: ) and Doc :thumbsup:

Also heaps of thanks to Pete Spencer, the man puts heaps of support both into our team, our guns and especially prizes for SAPPA events, well done mate and thanks

and thanks to Trent and Tabby for the loan of gun parts and guns :o

see you all at SAPPA round 5

.........(or the Hookem cup)

.............(or the Masters) :thumbsup:

TRENT
12-09-2005, 05:23 PM
LOL, Blacky destroys guns. My gun was powered by Ethans air bottle all weekend and didnt go down or chop a ball all weekend.

Big shoutout to Spence from Propaintballshop.com for inviting me along to play for Victorious. The latest batch of Vcomp is also very good and flew as staight as possible in all that wind.

blacky
12-09-2005, 05:28 PM
hey that gun was solid it was the preset that was being a smaktard

Big Steve
13-09-2005, 01:09 AM
Big respect to all the refs and good to hear that the proceeds were donated to Scotties family :respekt: :respekt: :respekt:

As to playing front what can I say, if you put all the good barricades on the 50 even I will have to move up there eventually. :lol:

Can we put a tall pole on JJJ's back for round 5 so that we can see where he is??? :rofl: I tmight even stop me stiching him up again, maybe. :twisted:

Respect to Hideous, Bushy, Brett and that other guy, ummm, oh yeah Willba for playing with me this round :angel:

Adamage
13-09-2005, 10:27 PM
Another tournament over, full of emotion, thrills and spills.

Thankyou to everyone for coming out onto the field for a one minutes silence to remember the passing of our good friend Scot Stokes. I'm sure he would have been very proud of you all.

Many many people contribute to making these events happen, so i'd like to send a big :thumbsup: :clap: :respekt: to all of those who help out.

Adrenalin Paintball Sportz. Laurence, Mel, Jane and the girls - Great field, improvements always being undertaken, for that we are forever greatful.

Reffs - Team Ecipse. Rob our new head reff. Excellent work, kept the games rolling along quickly and called it how he saw it. The rest of the team. 'Lil Alz, Big Chris, JJJ, Renae. Ultimate judge Gazza. Our ring in reffs, Brett from Team Kaoz and John on the Chrono. All worked in the rain and cold, didn't eat till late and not complaining one bit. You guys worked the hardest all day and i can't say how much SAPPA appreciates your effort. They also donated the money they received from reffing to Jane and her family. Well done guys :thumbsup:

www.propaintballshop.com.au - Pete Spenser - For supporting SAPPA donating prizes and bringing the Pro shop down so we can all spend our hard earned $

www.tomahawkpaintball.com.au - Josh - Also for supporting SAPPA and donating prizes

www.premiumpaintballacessories.com.au - Brett Lindsey - Another SAPPA supporter and prize donator.

Martin Hammelmann - Suppied HPA all day against the constant drone of the compressor :thumbsup:

Team Welt - For helping set up the field, prior to and on the day.

Skirmish SA and Team Kaoz - For lending some 'Sup Air barricades and much needed pegs. - Special mention to Brett, Troy and Garry.

The SAPPA Committee, Travis, Wade and Garry :thumbsup:

Everyone else that pitched in to help, thank you.

Round 4 Scores are as follows.

Div 1

Victorious 553
Welt 532
Kaoz 388
Tsunami 362
Night Shade 320

Div 2

Enigma 961
Rogue Elements 712
Cyclone 706
Ballistic 585
TYTO 480
CSSA Legion 470
Sudden Impact 434
Iron Bobs Longmen 429
Kronic 400
Young Guns 365
Money Shot 282

Thanks to all teams and SAPPA members for another great tourney. See you all again at round 5

Deadeye
14-09-2005, 11:41 AM
How does Enigma have such a high score of 900's and 500's highest in div 1, just wondering how many games each team played.

Mugger
14-09-2005, 02:30 PM
i heard that the div 2 teams played 10 games and the div 1s only play 8

Deadeye
14-09-2005, 02:33 PM
Ah ok so div 1 play everyone in their div twice, and div 2 played everyone in their div once. Sweet was just curious because some scores seemed high, others low.

Adam question if i bring a team to round 5 and theres 6 pro teams, will that deffenitly mean we get 10 games minimum? Cheers.

Adamage
14-09-2005, 05:55 PM
Hey Deadeye, it looks like that would be the case. After playing AXL where you play nearly 35-40 games in a weekend. Playing 8 or 10 looks like a walk in the park. Then why the hell am i just as sore !!! :cry:

Deadeye
14-09-2005, 10:28 PM
Cool, sounds good. Should c u at round 5:D

JJJ
15-09-2005, 09:43 AM
Thankyou to

www.tomahawkpaintball.com.au - Josh - Also for supporting SAPPA and donating prizes



you missed thanking Dan Lacey (Chief Wiggum) of Tomahawk

MG1100
15-09-2005, 09:21 PM
you missed thanking Dan Lacey (Chief Wiggum) of Tomahawk
Well done to Team Tomahawk, including Dan. They've got pretty good field paint too.

OFS
16-09-2005, 05:50 PM
....

OFS
16-09-2005, 05:52 PM
another