Anyone used the Q-Loader

[robsonpj]

Hi Guys,

Anyone used the Q-Loader or know someone who has?

I'm thinking of buyinng one but would like to talk to a Q-Loader user first. :help:

[Crazy]

One of the NQ guys had one iat the Rocky tournament ( May 04 ).
I'll PM Blobby to see if he can remember who it was :thumbsup:

[OFS]

nope i think there illegal in Aust and there definatly not allowed in tournament better off getting a fast hopper

[i8dafrog]

i also think a past post on here mentioned a little about it and who owned it

[OFS]

theres a vid i posted in the members lounge of one in action it sounded like a mini gun :armed:

[OFS]

hey robsonpj just get an egg

[blacky]

they are very fast but a little prone to jams ( I don't own one but did a lot of looking into it myself) and on field "accidents" aprt form the shell design the egg is probably the safest and most reliable hopper for your bucks

[robsonpj]

Are you sure about they are not allowed in tournaments?
I only ask because I don't know.

[i8dafrog]

Yea im backing the egg

['Smokin' Joe Watson]

Are you sure about they are not allowed in tournaments?
I only ask because I don't know.

I dont know about this because i know there was a player using one at the South Pacs. I dont see why they would be illegal at tourneys.

[AGGS]

The questions regarding how legal it is revolves around it being a true force feed loader, i think the jury is still out on the NPPL rules on whether they are banned or not

[robsonpj]

I have sent an E-mail to the NPPL in the US asking them weather they are legal or not. I will post there reply when I here from them.

[i8dafrog]

The questions regarding how legal it is revolves around it being a true force feed loader, i think the jury is still out on the NPPL rules on whether they are banned or not


so wats the go with warp fed :confused:

[Hardcore]

On the box that the Halo comes in, it states that it is a true force-feed loader.

[Big Gav]

One of the Synergy boys used one at the South Pacs as well as Alex (JYD). Frosty has since bought Alex's set up and has been running with it. Frosty seems to dislike hoppers he likes the smaller taget area especialy when he shoots left handed. He was using a warp feed before the Q loader. He did say that he thought the Q loader was far better/faster than his warp feed. Personaly I don't like them, hey only give you 100 on the gun a big disadvantage and I reckon they take longer to reload than a standard set up. I'll see Frosty on Sunday and get his opion of it for you.

[Deadeye]

On the box that the Halo comes in, it states that it is a true force-feed loader.

They are true force feed. They are always applying pressure to the ball stack. On the other hand a non true force feed is the Egg. Its relies on gravity before any form of force starts thats why they aren't really very fast.

Qloaders aren't tournament legal because they dont rely at all on gravity to operate, but theres no real sense to the rule so it will probably be changed or already has.

[robsonpj]

I recieved an answer from the US NPPL regarding the use of Q-loaders in NPPL tournements.

"Yes the Q-loader is OK"
Chuck Hendsch
NPPL President.

['Smokin' Joe Watson]

I recieved an answer from the US NPPL regarding the use of Q-loaders in NPPL tournements.

"Yes the Q-loader is OK"
Chuck Hendsch
NPPL President.


I thought as much, as this would have also left Warp feeds up the duff and we know they have been around for ages.

[Sardukarn]

So far Frosty is loving his Q-loader, even with the reduced amount of paint he can carry. However he has found you have to be a bit selective with your paint as some are a bit too fragile. But the rate of feed you get from it and not having a feeder on top making you a larger target far outweigh any minor problems.

Warpig did a review of all the loaders some time ago, that also reviewed the Q-loader as part of it, have a read - Warpig, Loader Lineup (http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/loaders/lineup2/index.shtml)

Or the full review of the Q-loader itself - Q-Loader Review (http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/loaders/qloader_review/index.shtml)

Both articles worth a read if you are thinking of getting one ...

:thumbsup: Enjoy..

[robsonpj]

Thank's Sardukarn I'll have a look.

[Deadeye]

I thought as much, as this would have also left Warp feeds up the duff and we know they have been around for ages.

Nope warp feeds rely on gravity too..they wouldn't fall under such a rule.

[Sardukarn]

If still interested in the Qloader, Frosty and i where looking at their site on the net today - hes after more "q-pods" and is definatly happy with the system. They have some new deals on their site where you now get a harness that suits their gear, and the system is cheaper per unit.

Go have a look - Q-Loader (http://www.qloader.com/)

And for those interested in a bit of extreme paintball - have a look at this loader at 31bps !!!! - 31bps Movie (http://www.qloader.com/movies/zak_vetter_31_bps.mov) :lol:

Enjoy..

[strife]

im just wondering how oftern you have to replace the springs in them, surley with the pressure they will strech.

[Sardukarn]

im just wondering how oftern you have to replace the springs in them, surley with the pressure they will strech.

Checked with frosty - and this hasnt been an issue yet. The spring is not normally under pressure until you load it, and you wouldnt go leaving paint in the pod for any longer than a day anyway.

Also Frosty ordered some more pods for the touney in Feb and has recived an email back that they have changed the design a little that may help any issue with that - heres part of it -


The improvements that were made to the q-loader have to do with the feed tube color and the q-pod's spring system. First, we changed the feed tubes from white to translucent gray, in order to make them more camouflaged for scenario players. Second, we designed an all new spring motor to replace the existing spring components in the q-pods. We integrated the hub, spring, and screw to make using and cleaning your q-pods easier. The spring motor also performs better than the original spring design and is more durable.

If you are at the Qld touney in Feb ask around for Frosty - i'm sure he would be happy to show the system off to you.

Hope this helps.. :armed:

[strife]

cheers dude helps alot

[vonsplatt]

How would they go on field rental guns??

[Knackers]

How would they go on field rental guns??

In a word............. Crap! too easy to break for your average joombie!


Legality on warps/q-loaders is a contensious issue..Warps still rely on gravity as the balls have to drop from a loader into the warp then into the marker! if a halo or egg is ok then a warp is also. However a q-loader forces the balls in under pressure?!?!?!

honestly I dont see any problem with them at all... if a marker can pump out paint at the speeds they can, then who cares what is feeding it!!! 10bps........20bps........60bps who cares! at 10bps the guy is gone even if the shooter couldnt hit the side of a barn

[Hardcore]

They're good for taking a hit on the loader and tossing them too.
If one were so inclined.

[Sardukarn]

In a word............. Crap! too easy to break for your average joombie!


Legality on warps/q-loaders is a contensious issue..Warps still rely on gravity as the balls have to drop from a loader into the warp then into the marker! if a halo or egg is ok then a warp is also. However a q-loader forces the balls in under pressure?!?!?!

I dont agree ....

Knackers have you used the q-loader yourself ???

I have been watching Frosty with his for the last few months - i think they are great for a front player but of course dont suit those at the back. On a rental gun is probably not such a bad idea -
- simple - pod empty? slap in a new one
- they cant pick up old paint and load it
- easy to sell the paint in loaded pods of 100
- they cant really run around with the gun empty shooting air
- the gear is fairly robust and easy to clean
- no batteries etc.

There is a few parts that could break - but nothing more than on any other system, and qloader is changing their design slightly to improve it.

Also in regards to the legality - NPPL have approved the q-loader system for tournement use. Dont know about NXL - but i guess that only matters if you want to play it...

[robsonpj]

Thanks guys for the feedback. I have decided to go ahead and order the q-loader system. I hope to meet Frosty in brisbane.

[JJJ]

another satisfied Bills customer - closing the thread