Bottle Fiasco?

[James]

There has been a lot of information and mis-information about HP bottle legality on this site. All MacDev customers should read this:

http://www.macdev.net/au/HPlegal.htm

MacDev bottles have always had Workcover approval - I am not certain about why Mike and others have said things ranging from "they are legal" through "I would be shocked if they weren't legal" to "they are definately not legal". Nothing has changed - the bottles have always had Workcover approval and are thus legal.

Because we value our customer satisfaction, we have decided to have documentation produced as proof of legality for each individual MacDev bottle in Australia. For this, we will require all MacDev bottles to be sent back to the factory to be processed. All bottles will be returned free of charge and regulators will be serviced while in the factory. All cylinders will be turned around quickly (approx 3-5 days).

After reading peoples posts about the SouthPacs, I have seen some statements that are incorrect. Worksafe QLD DO NOT require a design verification number (as required in other states) they only require a Australian Test Station Mark.

I received the first phone call from a customer concerned about this issue this afternoon. If some of the guys on here had of picked up the phone earlier they would have known all of this weeks ago (this information is not new).

[BIG ROB]

Thanks James, that good to hear. Can I contact you this week to arrange sending a couple bottles down?
Thanks
Rob Short

[Blobby]

well thanks james......due to this thread of yours how can we all whinge and bitch???.....bills is going to be boring again.........bugger.......might as well go and look at he NZ pages....it is boring no sledging crap too.......

LOL

[Sonic]

Booo, hisss! We want more controversy!

[minihux]

sick now we got 2 players back in action.......just wondering if you knew this information ages ago would it of been wise to post up here to cause less mis-understanding and so on.

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x

[Pyro]

Good work James. All people need to do is RING the people who know and not listen to people who think they know. QLD legality should be directed to William (Bill) Hunt Sea-Lab Systems PTY LTD 34b Chester St Fortitude Valley Ph: 3252 7383 as i have said b4 Bill is on the Standards Aust commitee and HE KNOWS HPA.

[Deadeye]

Will have my bottle up there shortly...props to Macdev..High Quality Service, High Quality Products as always!

[Pyro]

just wondering if you knew this information ages ago would it of been wise to post up here to cause less mis-understanding and so on.

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x


Read James' last line about the phone call this afternoon

[Hardcore]

Best. News. Ever.

I don't have a Macdev bottle, but now it looks like I'll get to shoot a lot more people.

Thanks for clearing it up James.

[Hideous]

Thanks James


Because we value our customer satisfaction, we have decided to have documentation produced as proof of legality for each individual MacDev bottle in Australia. For this, we will require all MacDev bottles to be sent back to the factory to be processed. All bottles will be returned free of charge and regulators will be serviced while in the factory. All cylinders will be turned around quickly (approx 3-5 days).

It's what we were after. Doumentation !!

It's what some have been saying on Bill's for months - but you wouldn't wade in and state your case.

Thanks

[Sonic]

With all due respect Hideous, have you ever considered pestering MacDev themselves first (i.e. contacting the manufacturer of your product) instead of waving your arms madly about in Bills? As I recall from your posts, you had contacted nearly everyone EXCEPT Mac Dev.

[Souse]

With all due respect Hideous, have you ever considered pestering MacDev themselves first (i.e. contacting the manufacturer of your product) instead of waving your arms madly about in Bills? As I recall from your posts, you had contacted nearly everyone EXCEPT Mac Dev.

Well said Sonic

[Hideous]

With all due respect Hideous, have you ever considered pestering MacDev themselves first (i.e. contacting the manufacturer of your product) instead of waving your arms madly about in Bills? As I recall from your posts, you had contacted nearly everyone EXCEPT Mac Dev.

Yes i did consider calling the company.

I will keep my answers to the point.

1. The WC documentation is suppose to be supplied with each sale.
this wasn't done

2. The cylinder may have been marked to prove this
this wasn't done

This whole issue of cylinders could have been stopped months ago if Macdev had piped up and concurred to what we have been saying.
this wasn't done

At any stage Macdev could have helped us out with the information to

1. counter the claim that WC number have to be on a bottle
2. informed us that QLD does not require Stamps only documentation
this wasn't done

My question to you is why am I the boogie man when I did supply AS information in the myriad of air system questions we have been pestered with
online.

I made a mistake (before I pulled the cover off my bottle) that I would have the necessary WC information on it, or in my documents.

What would have happened if 1/3rd to 1/2 of the South Pac players found out - on entry that their air system wasn't as per WC and Organisers rules
and told you your air wasnt to be filled? Betrayed ? Angry ?

At the last moment you would have been unable to play... make your judgement there.

It is now sorted.

As I have stated in previous posts - there is nothing illegal about imported bottles or using them without that undewrwrap WC number ( that is an easy check at Tourney's )- Macdev do it as proven here, but you do NEED that WC documentation.

There was no misrepresentation here. Have a good read.

As for calling Macdev ?

Why didnt they come forward before hand?
Why did they think they could let this slide?

Why didnt they contact us first?

[HellSpawn]

I think Hideous is a trouble maker and shit stirrer who's only plan was to split the paintball community into little tribe's so we never talk to each other become kings of our own back yard.. :eek:

[Souse]

I always was King of my own backyard

[Hideous]

I think Hideous is a trouble maker and shit stirrer who's only plan was to split the paintball community into little tribe's so we never talk to each other become kings of our own back yard.. :eek:


I think you just violated Bills' rules.

We talk so we get an understanding what is going on. Time has gone when we just looked after ourselves. We are too small a community.

I have no commerical affiliation with any supplier or manufacturer. I buy from everyone.

When I put my hard earned money down on something I want it correct, I want it right, and what I asked for.

I could have called Macdev, sorted my problem with the cylinder out and left all the other people with Macdev airsystems in trouble with South Pac's organisers, but I chose not to.

I expect James will take great delight in overshooting me. It wont stop me from buying another marker off him, or another airsystem.

[Deadeye]

Best way to read Hideous's posts...read the first line... read the last line..remember that all in the middle is just meaningless ramble:)

[Neil]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...
Hideous maybe should have rung Macdev but he did do the right thing by posting it here, how would you have liked to show up at the southpacs only to find you wouldnt be able to get your bottle filled?
I know I would be pissed if someone knew but said nothing!
Macdev are doing the right thing and correcting this small oversight so stop complaining and finger pointing, THAT is what splits the paintball community!
Just my 2cents...
Cya, Neil

[skip]

Maybe Mac Dev were too busy making there products to come on here and post it or collecting information on the bottle fiasco so they could let all of us know

[HellSpawn]

Maybe you could have used $2 of your hard earned cash to make the apporate phone call..

[GIBB]

Souse...
Pick ANY back yard you you can be KING!!
:respekt:
Cheers
GIBB

[Jamie_Cracker]

i was gonna say that Gibb a king in anyones back yard....Qld laws are about 25yrs behind NSW so we will be filling cylinders with a current stamp on it
apparently QLD law also states that the person that owns the cylinder gets charged with having an illigal cylinder not the filling person filling it.
I have only just found out about this so i thought you guys better know
I hope that this solve a lot of our problems for the imediate south pacs but make sure your stuff is tight for the masters cause I am gonna be tough there just be thankfull that it isnt NZ they are worse i hear

[spice]

make sure your stuff is tight for the masters cause I am gonna be tough there just be thankfull that it isnt NZ they are worse i hear

guess it's a matter of perspective. Never had nor heard of anyone having a problem filling a MacDev system in NZ...

Good that this has all be sorted thou... enjoy Southpacs... :thumbsup:

[Jamie_Cracker]

Someone mentioned that the standards and such are tougher in NZ thats all and that they enforce them more

[Big Gav]

As Jamie has said just above Queensland Work safe has a very liberal set of rules covering our tanks up here in Queensland. Basicly No workcover number is required for our tanks. They must still compliy with Australian standards and have a test station number and stamp on the tank. Of course the tank must be within test date and carry reistered test station mark.

So what does that mean to us. Basicly if you present an air system that meets Australian Standards has the test stamp from a reistered test station and that tank is within test dates you will be allowed to use it.

So provided that you haven't let your Mac tank go out of date your Mac tank is welcome at the South Pacs. :thumbsup:

Now it is up to you guys make sure that your bottles are within test and that they have their test stamp from a reistered test station clearly visable.

The only thing that he is wrong about is saying we are behind NSW as we all know every thing is better in Queensland, laws, bottle regulations and of course the players. :thumbsup:

[Kristen]

I think Hideous is a trouble maker and shit stirrer who's only plan was to split the paintball community into little tribe's so we never talk to each other become kings of our own back yard.. :eek:

No I believe he hasn’t been in paintball long enough to have become accustom to being screwed around by some of the paintball gear supply companies time will teach him :whip:
As for the little tribes thing that does sound fun :armed: :rolleyes:

[minihux]

Hideous

has lots of points that sound pretty legit and i see not many answers to them. he is a paying customer.

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x

[Rainman]

WOOHOO there you go Sonic, more controversy................

[Neil]

If we are gonna be tribes...I want the Victorians to be known as the "Kickalotacroweaters" tribe.... :lol:
Sorry S.A. guys, we love ya really :kiss:
lol!
cya, Neil
P.S. Who will be in the "Nevertouchatitty" tribe? :confused:

[Sonic]

Yay, more controversy. now I wanna see BLOOD!

[Bill]

And on that note I think we have gone far enougth off topic.

Closed.