View Full Version : Getting paintball on tv here!
Elfboy
27-01-2004, 05:10 PM
Hey been watching the tail ends of a couple extreme sports shows and thought HEY!! wait a minute how can we get on these shows??
Hey guys and Gals who is good at letter writing?? or on the phone to get us a foot in the door this would be the start of getting it more publicity that we desperately need to get a better image for this EXTREME sport ;)
What ya reckon lets get this rolling any ideas???? :respekt: :evil :bow: :whip:
Elf boy, i've been on the same wave length for sometime, just really never got my head around it. I've only ever seen paintball tevelvised once, and that was on the nine lives, which is a kind of fill in show, if a shows finishes ten mintues early or late.
Was pretty cool thou.Not sure where it was filmed thou, was only about 14 when i saw it, i just remeber watching it.
Elfboy
27-01-2004, 05:18 PM
Cool well if we can get a few bites here maybe we can get a little foot in the door im going to watch tv this weekend to catch these shows so i can get the details of where and when to write to :)
MelonFarmer
27-01-2004, 11:30 PM
For our sake use a bloody spell checker before you send anything.
Seriously I'm working towards this goal in a number of directions.
I have been for the past few months trying to get paintball into "X GAMES" which is a extreme sports event that travels from state to sate (AUST)..
I biggest problem is they are asking $10,000 upfront for us to play in it ..
This money is for advertising etc .. this is a lot of money ..
One reason that makes it hard for us to get into "X GAMES" is that its a team sport .. and that X GAMES is solo skills like Rollerblading, skate boarding, motor bike jumping stuff like that ..
The next option that i have been working on is like big festivals eg Royal Melb Show..
Can anyone else give me some more ideas what else i can try .. :help:
The next option that i have been working on is like big festivals eg Royal Melb Show..
Thats a good idea, but it would really be hard to get paintball out there that way, unless we had fields behind us supporting the events cause people would see the events, but really have no clue on what to do or where or who to go to.
I have been for the past few months trying to get paintball into "X GAMES" which is a extreme sports event that travels from state to sate (AUST)..
I biggest problem is they are asking $10,000 upfront for us to play in it ..
This money is for advertising etc .. this is a lot of money ..
One reason that makes it hard for us to get into "X GAMES" is that its a team sport .. and that X GAMES is solo skills like Rollerblading, skate boarding, motor bike jumping stuff like that ..
The next option that i have been working on is like big festivals eg Royal Melb Show..
Can anyone else give me some more ideas what else i can try .. :help:
Cost is always an issue.... But what about all the exhibitions that accompany the Big Day Out. A 3 or 5 man event on SupAir would attract huge attention at something like that...?
Just a thought...?
Fully i think Big Day Out would be a big attraction, BUt how would we get people from there, considering most people are lazy as hell and wont follow it up? Thats my question
Fully i think Big Day Out would be a big attraction, BUt how would we get people from there, considering most people are lazy as hell and wont follow it up? Thats my question
what do you mean follow up. are you talking about people joining the sport on a competive level or just coming out to the fields for social day with friend and work mates both would be good for the sport , new and young talent for the sport and more bussiness to the fields that are sponsers for the teams,
kinda meaning both tom, maybe to increase paintball as sport on a competive level, but at same time helping those fields that do sponser teams.
Its more, something the fields should organise not the paintball organisations, cause its those feilds that orangise it that are going to be the ones benifiting from it.
Count me down for something along these lines
Cost is always an issue.... But what about all the exhibitions that accompany the Big Day Out. A 3 or 5 man event on SupAir would attract huge attention at something like that...?
Just a thought...?
Thats what i was talking about doing expo games so more people come aware of the sport..
the problem with doing them is that for us to be able to play around people we would have to look at a fully inclosed net .. that way people out side couldnt get hit at all .. from a bounce of a barrcade ..
The other one that has just come to mibd is like a shooting gallery .. ( u know the ones that have air rifles and shoot ducks down) u could have something like that .. but not have people on the other side .. its a way of introducting the sport .. even have a few screens with games playing on it .. maybe not 300 FPS but something on those lines ..
kinda meaning both tom, maybe to increase paintball as sport on a competive level, but at same time helping those fields that do sponser teams.
Its more, something the fields should organise not the paintball organisations, cause its those feilds that orangise it that are going to be the ones benifiting from it.
Count me down for something along these lines
i only semi agree with that. It might also scare the customers of thinking that they would be playing against us.i think it would mainly be good for new tourney players and showing oz that we are a real sport.as for the $10000 start fee if there is one hundred players i would not mind paying a extra 100 on top of normal tourney costs if it shows the sport of to a larger audience.
If a tourney was held at a large advent thats hopfully when non paintball sponsers would prob start throwing the $$$$ around .Big companies such as coke, pepsi , red bull or gatorade might come to the party with the funds as there target audience will be watching. cause at the moment if there is a tourney its usually only tourney players and there friends and families that come to watch.
Well when you put it that way it doesnt sound so bad..
$500 per team
20 teams = $10,000
I am sure we could get some sponsers to help us..
The problem would be coming up with the $10k first
I dont think it would be hard to get 20 teams to a event that would be one of the biggest public veiwed comps in Aust..
What other costs there will be in running a comp ..
TRENT
28-01-2004, 05:57 PM
Sounds good. I am unsure when xtreme games are this year usually in summer towrds nov dec i think. Plenty of time to get teams registered and make it happen. Unsure on where it is located though but usually on Goldcoast, Sydney and Melbourne. Sydney would probably be best location due to being central for most players. I do know that planet X TV show is starting in March though.
eukanuba
28-01-2004, 06:20 PM
Sydney would probably be best location due to being central for most players.
Yeah, for guys in SYDNEY...
*cough*
- Euk.
Hardcore
28-01-2004, 06:54 PM
I used to be the sub-editor for Boarder wakeboard mag, and they have a very close relationship with the X-Games organisors. I'll be looking into the demo-side of things in the near future.
I'm also starting to put together the beginnings of a paintball DVD.
I have a friend with a video production company that released a very successful wakeboard video, and he's letting me use his software/hardware.
I've got the music for the DVD locked down, all I need now is lots and lots of intense footage.
Several sponsors are in the works too.
More to follow.
TRENT
28-01-2004, 07:22 PM
i mean for the important states like Vic, NSW and QLD. Just kidding. You WA players and SA are just to far away and not big enough (population wise) and yes Tasmania is out of the question YZO. SA would be good but i dont think would get as bigger turnout as Sydney or Melbourne. Remember it is about spectators not players.
Elfboy
28-01-2004, 09:20 PM
Unreal man that would be sick we need all the leads we can get :)
TRENT
28-01-2004, 09:34 PM
Hardcore someone has already contacted x-games and they said it was $10,000 for exibition. Still affordable just need teams to commit.
Elfboy
28-01-2004, 09:57 PM
Damnit im still a kiwi ill see if i can get a kiwi grant ;)
Thats what i was talking about doing expo games so more people come aware of the sport...the problem with doing them is that for us to be able to play around people we would have to look at a fully inclosed net .. that way people out side couldnt get hit at all .. from a bounce of a barrcade.
Don't think playing in an enclosed area will be a problem...the APPL set up last year was very safe and you could easily see though the netting.
The other one that has just come to mibd is like a shooting gallery .. ( u know the ones that have air rifles and shoot ducks down) u could have something like that .. but not have people on the other side .. its a way of introducting the sport .. even have a few screens with games playing on it .. maybe not 300 FPS but something on those lines ..
Would be good to get people involved but all you would need it one pissed punter who thinks its funnier to turn round and shoot his mate rather than a target and all hell could break loose....not the sort of publicity we are looking for.
Fully i think Big Day Out would be a big attraction, BUt how would we get people from there, considering most people are lazy as hell and wont follow it up? Thats my question
You won't be trying to get everyone to play just to get the sport known about and out there in the public eye. Maybe a field owner in each state could pay for the rights to hand out their business cards or some contact flyers. With over 30000 people through the gate at each BigDayOut thats a hell of a lot of potential Rec Ballers and hopefully once some had played BushBall their next question is "thats great but how do I get into the sort of Paintball I saw at the BigDayOut...?"
Just a thought....
Yeah, for guys in SYDNEY...
*cough*
- Euk.
laws will have to change before any of that happens if you want to find out the cost of a tourney ring up all the fields that have held them and ask them for advice
does the x games travel around aus or do they have if it in a different state each year. And if it travels does that mean there is a $10000 fee for each venu
TRENT
29-01-2004, 08:38 PM
No they travel around each city. Im unsure what $10k cost but i will get back to you.
The $10,000.00 is to the XGames promotors for them not the set up, you can easily triple that again (or more) for the set up (labour, shade cloth, poles, air fills, refs etc), insurance and the big clean up after. Plus being firearms you willl need engineers reports for the saftey screen, local goverment (e.g. council) and state firearms approval and someone to do it, on their time.
As for the players happily putting up an extra $100.00 each? Yeah right. Pull the other one. $25.00 for a whole years membership in the APPL and you can see on this site how some wankers carry on.
Sorry guys I don't mean to rain on your parade, this type of event cost a bucket of money, ten grand will not even come close, believe me I know.
ToOtHpIcK
02-04-2004, 07:29 AM
Hey Guys im a newb to paint ball and i think you guys ar onto somthing weth your x-games thing its all about opaning the publick eye to paintball evry bit of good publicity helps..
i8dafrog
31-05-2004, 11:46 PM
I think what The sport of paint ball needs is a demo a public display or something 2 show people 1 how safe it is and also what a buzz it is to play
Aden_1
01-06-2004, 08:38 AM
As mike said, it would cost a bucket of money...
Sooooo, call on some sponsors!!!
They get their Logos displayed all over the field .etc .etc
Im sure someone could rustle up 30,000 USD, by getting 3-4 major sponsors from the big US paintball brands, by pushing the theme of a rapidly expanding australian market, in which by sponsoring this they would control a large market share of all australian paintball products!!!!
Just my input!!!!!
Hardcore
01-06-2004, 10:21 AM
They've already got a lockdown on the market here, with the exception of MacDev.
trigor
22-11-2006, 02:44 PM
is this still not possible?
i cant understand why events like the masters isnt shown on TV
This would help the sport to the max and with the recent law changes shouldnt things be 10 times easyer?
is this still not possible?
i cant understand why events like the masters isnt shown on TV
This would help the sport to the max and with the recent law changes shouldnt things be 10 times easyer?
I dont want to bring up a sour point here..
But you have to admit, unless you breath and live paintball like most of us here.
A paintball game can be pretty boring to watch.
My sister just happened to catch the Legion Vs Dynasty game on Foxtel and she said it was boring as bat $hit and the only reason that she watched it was to see what i enjoyed in it..
Its not really a TV Spectators sport..
maddog
22-11-2006, 03:39 PM
I dont want to bring up a sour point here..
But you have to admit, unless you breath and live paintball like most of us here.
A paintball game can be pretty boring to watch.
My sister just happened to catch the Legion Vs Dynasty game on Foxtel and she said it was boring as bat $hit and the only reason that she watched it was to see what i enjoyed in it..
Its not really a TV Spectators sport..
its a shit load better than most of the sport on tv these days.
triathalon, watching someone swim run & cycle for hours on end is real exciting tv.
swimming boring as too, lets sit here for 15 mins & watch someone swim 30 laps of a 50 metre pool.
rowing, boring,
all track & field boring.
test cricket 5 days sometimes without a result, boring.
theres plenty more crappy sports which plain & simple shouldnt be on the telly.
paintball sometimes like any other team sports can have boring games, but its sh1tloads better than most.
its a shit load better than most of the sport on tv these days.
triathalon, watching someone swim run & cycle for hours on end is real exciting tv.
swimming boring as too, lets sit here for 15 mins & watch someone swim 30 laps of a 50 metre pool.
rowing, boring,
all track & field boring.
test cricket 5 days sometimes without a result, boring.
theres plenty more crappy sports which plain & simple shouldnt be on the telly.
paintball sometimes like any other team sports can have boring games, but its sh1tloads better than most.
I think that is where we arent as evenly exposed as the shit "sports" because it isnt a sport, its a game.
Fobos
22-11-2006, 03:50 PM
its a shit load better than most of the sport on tv these days.
triathalon, watching someone swim run & cycle for hours on end is real exciting tv.
swimming boring as too, lets sit here for 15 mins & watch someone swim 30 laps of a 50 metre pool.
rowing, boring,
all track & field boring.
test cricket 5 days sometimes without a result, boring.
theres plenty more crappy sports which plain & simple shouldnt be on the telly.
paintball sometimes like any other team sports can have boring games, but its sh1tloads better than most.
Matter of opinion. I agree with DemonAce. For non-paintballers it can be rather boring. I was once a non-paintballer who watched paintball vids... they did NOT produce enjoyment.
However... They did make me think: "I could take all these fools..." and then I decided to play:p
trigor
22-11-2006, 03:59 PM
its a shit load better than most of the sport on tv these days.
triathalon, watching someone swim run & cycle for hours on end is real exciting tv.
swimming boring as too, lets sit here for 15 mins & watch someone swim 30 laps of a 50 metre pool.
rowing, boring,
all track & field boring.
test cricket 5 days sometimes without a result, boring.
theres plenty more crappy sports which plain & simple shouldnt be on the telly.
paintball sometimes like any other team sports can have boring games, but its sh1tloads better than most.
agreed!!
even the more exciting sports like football and soccer can be boring to watch sometimes. once poeple get to know the rules and how the game works paintball is better to watch then most sports out there
lump_a_charcoal
22-11-2006, 04:10 PM
You would be surprised (or maybe not) to know how many people dont even know what paintball is, let alone the differences between woodsball and Supair...
I think any TV exposure is better than none - Hell they televise 5 day cricket matches, which to me is proof that some people will watch anything!
I reckon tourneyball is sweet for TV, and I was surprised to see not one of the TV channels out there on sunday... I mean it is the Australian Masters, best of the best in Oz... Deserves even 15 seconds on Sports Tonight, right?
Mosts sports are boring to watch, UNLESS the commentator is good and knows what he is doing...They can make all the difference
I reckon tourneyball is sweet for TV, and I was surprised to see not one of the TV channels out there on sunday... I mean it is the Australian Masters, best of the best in Oz... Deserves even 15 seconds on Sports Tonight, right?
Just need to make sure there's no bad language heheh, right Pete :)
I think its more of a logistical problem , to make it interesting , multiple cameras and getting all the action , The current formats provide the right atmosphere , we need to get as much good publicity as possible , why not look at sponsoring a charity event ?
giant
22-11-2006, 04:28 PM
Ive got a feeling MIP's set-up at next years Grand Prix will be the biggest step forward for paintball on tv and as a sport in general for a long time.
I can see big things coming after this.
its a shit load better than most of the sport on tv these days.
triathalon, watching someone swim run & cycle for hours on end is real exciting tv.
swimming boring as too, lets sit here for 15 mins & watch someone swim 30 laps of a 50 metre pool.
rowing, boring,
all track & field boring.
test cricket 5 days sometimes without a result, boring.
theres plenty more crappy sports which plain & simple shouldnt be on the telly.
paintball sometimes like any other team sports can have boring games, but its sh1tloads better than most.
Okay lets do some figures. i think you may be suprised tha tthe amount of people that play crappy sports such as
Triathlon, Swimming, Rowing, Track and Field, oh and you guessed it, Cricket!
Im sure if we put paintball next to any of the "boring" sports you listed (which i agree are boring!) The amount of people that participate in each of these sports will overtake the amount of people that play paintball, everytime.
The secret to getting it Onto TV will be making it marketable to All ages, which at this point in time, i dont see happening for a good couple of years.
... why not look at sponsoring a charity event ?
This is a good idea, something i was thinking of... hosting an event that will attract non-paintballers with paintballers. Good for charity, good for the industry.
Host a charity day/tourny?
Fobos
22-11-2006, 07:22 PM
This is a good idea, something i was thinking of... hosting an event that will attract non-paintballers with paintballers. Good for charity, good for the industry.
Host a charity day/tourny?
SA has these
lump_a_charcoal
22-11-2006, 07:44 PM
Hold like a Pro/Am -
Birdman
23-11-2006, 07:14 AM
The first thing to do is abandon the "its too hard attitude". If you want something on TV then think it through. If you can't convince an event or TV station that its in their interest to try paintball (or anything else for that matter) then it will cost a fortune to do - you just fall into the same bunch of others than they milk for their event / station. There is more than one angle to these things!!
PS - i think full paintball games on TV may not be that popular maintstream. Not to say there isn't a market though. If they screen poker, golf, bowls, darts then surely paintball has a chance.
Birdman
23-11-2006, 09:38 AM
PS - If you want to see MIP on the TV - keep an eye on Channel 7 and 10 tonight on the news / sport (also Herald Sun). Richmond Football Club are down playing this morning at MIP as a promo.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
slider
23-11-2006, 12:09 PM
i reckon channel TVS would televise, there is alot of extreme type sports on that channel ie: 4X4 driving
Timmy_C
23-11-2006, 01:13 PM
I know we get limited TV exposure on with the Gravity Games but even then its not entire shows dedicated to paintball... I think you'll find its <5min =(
you know that it on ESPN now? but is usa airball. not australian.
Elfboy
23-11-2006, 07:22 PM
wonder if espn take bribes??? :D
Birdman
23-11-2006, 08:10 PM
We had our debut on 7 and 10 tonight. Richmond FC hammered each other at MIP today as part of the pre season team building. Pretty funny really - Richo trying to hide behind a half deflated bunker and copped one in the forehead just above the mask. Keep an eye on the Herald Sun sport section tomorrow - should be something there also.
Valdor1
08-12-2006, 09:40 PM
you know that it on ESPN now? but is usa airball. not australian.
Yeah guys 1st Semi Finals on ESPN last week when Seattle Naughty dogs beat LA XSV. Thiz Saturday (09/12/06) at 10:30pm Dynasty take on Atlanta Predetors. Winner goes on to Play Naughty Dogs in the Final, loser plays XSV for 3rd place.
Elfboy
08-12-2006, 09:59 PM
fkin hell yeah go da dogs !!!! ;)
Valdor1
09-12-2006, 02:00 PM
fkin hell yeah go da dogs !!!! ;)
Will post the scores from 2nights game after i watch it or asap.:thumbsup:
Valdor1
09-12-2006, 10:56 PM
Saturday 9th. Dynasty 11 Defeat Atlanta Predetors 6
Atlanta leed at the end of the first half but Dynasty fought back with 7 unanswered points.
Next week Atlanta Predetors V's L.A XSV for 3rd/4th playoff. Game starts at 10:30pm (Saturday 16th).
Following week (Saturday 23rd) at 10:30pm we'll see a great Finals match between Sandiego Dynasty V's Seattle Naughty Dogs.
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