Mac Dev

[Camo]

Hey people

While i was flicking through the latest issue of facefull i noticed an adverstisement for Mac Developments.

Go to www.macdev.net

Now, as you can so guess their australian, and have 3 markers which the company offers, as well as a range of HPA systems. I was just wondering if any one would know what the markers are like??, I can see the sonic is of a cocker background but the cyborg, I have no idea whats it taken off. From the film clip its doesn't to be that bad of a gun, and for some one like me starting out their prices don't sounds that bad.

Any light on this topic would be great.

Cheers
Camo

[Deadeye]

Cyborg is the best marker on Earth. Fast, efficent, low pressure, light, has an eye.
The other two I know little about other than everyone I know who has a Sonic Cocker loves it, an if you add a E frame to it they go off tap.
The Hurricane is a very nice blowback, and when you add the elctronic grip frame capable of some pretty nice speeds.

Conquest Air System is without a doubt the best air system availible.

[Camo]

Thanks for that

any one else imput would be great, i couldn't see anything wrong with it, it just sounded to good to be true.

I am planning to get my first marker in the next 6 months, Considering the price of the gun and air systems, i could be looking at a getting the whole system for about 2500 by the end of it. :armed:

[Blobby]

mac dev have been around for a while now....they make some of the best gear in the world and have sponsored team such as BOB LONGS IRONMEN, NAUGHTY DOGS and BUSHWACKERS.......the sonic ac is based on the cocker and operates on real low pressure...mine runs at 150 psi striaght out of the conquest 03 and shoots very nicely...the cyborg is a new marker...electro with xtreme rates of fire....i have used 2 of them at tourneys in the last 4 months and in the last one everyone on the team(Mac Dev Factory Team ) use one and we won the tourney....they shot so fast we had people complaining that they were shooting to fast(bloody angel users).....they out shot(distance) every other marker at the tourney...and they are very accurate.....if you can get one of these...they rule...with a conquest 03 and a matchstik barrel kit you cant go wrong....mac also has great after service....call them and talk to them directly and you wont be disappointed....

[Elfboy]

Cyborg is the best marker on Earth. Fast, efficent, low pressure, light, has an eye.
The other two I know little about other than everyone I know who has a Sonic Cocker loves it, an if you add a E frame to it they go off tap.
The Hurricane is a very nice blowback, and when you add the elctronic grip frame capable of some pretty nice speeds.

Conquest Air System is without a doubt the best air system availible.


Bounce bounce bounce ;)

sick as but! they make some nice bits!!!

[ben@pbhub.de]

Cyborg is the best marker on Earth.


Oh come on, stfu. How old are you to make such a statement ?

Camo you might wanna watch the video on the macdev site.

What I can tell you about the Borg is that it is very light and small. With a conquest it doesn't weigh much.
It has 2 balldetends, which ensures that a forcefed hopper like the Halo is working. The new versions have a new board with debounce settings, which is similar to the equalizer board technique the Intimidators are using.

Furthermore it has a breakbeam ACE. Whenever you want a marker with a good Anti Chop Eye System, go get a breakbeam. It has it's advantages compared to the Angels Sensi or COPS, aswell as to reflective eyes.

Well what else, oh yeah it is Cockerthreaded which means that you're allowed to use Cocker barrels. Cockerthreading is very dispersed amongst today's markers and you will have the chance of selecting from a vast amount of barrels.

Afaik the new Borgs have a clamped feedneck, which allows you to tighten your loader into the feed without sanding it down. Certainly an advantage.

That's it for now, hope it helped.

[Deadeye]

[QUOTE=ben@pbhub.de]Oh come on, stfu. How old are you to make such a statement ?QUOTE] stfu? sorry for having an opinion. I believe its the best marker availible note the reason I bought one.

[Hideous]

oh no... Mr Anymarkerihaveibreak will ruin the rep of any marker

[Mary101]

if you want to a blow back, I would go with the hurricane and see if you can get your self a E-grip to go with it (like a spyder esp frame) I have one my self and I need an egg or a halo to keep up with it I chop balls with any thing else. but if you can afford it (and the paint) BUY THE CYBORG, forget the hurricane, forget the sonic AC, the cyborg rocks.

[minihux]

[QUOTE=ben@pbhub.de]Oh come on, stfu. How old are you to make such a statement ?QUOTE] stfu? sorry for having an opinion. I believe its the best marker availible note the reason I bought one.

i dont see how u can say its the best marker in the world u use to try and tell us the IR3's, Speed and etc were the best....make up your mind....

the borg sounds fast, light, shoots very flat, and has the ACE/PDA eye system...in other word double sensor eye. not the best looking marker but still sounds good. still have not shot one yet.......so i can only go on other peoples judgements. and i have reccomended it to my brother who is going to be starting soon but his will be a bit different to all the rest.

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x

[Damo]

sonic hurricanes are a good marker for a beginer or someone on a budget...

they run c02, have an electronic frame vertical feed, shoot fast and accurately etc

we have 3 at top gun at the momement and we going are to get alot more...

one vice... the vertical feeds are tight and have no adjustment and are also screwed down, not welded

Damo

[ben@pbhub.de]

stfu? sorry for having an opinion. I believe its the best marker availible note the reason I bought one.

Having an opinion is great, but why don't you just tell us why you do think that is a specific marker that great ?

Just saying "Its the best marker, I want one/I bought one" is just so 14 year kiddie pbnation style.

Sure, everyone who spends money on something regards his hardware to be the best on the whole market, especially when it comes to high end markers. But in fact it's the small things to look for and then objectively decide if they're comparably better than other features of other markers.
That's at least what I try to do.

[JJJ]

Oh come on, stfu. How old are you to make such a statement ?

Camo you might wanna watch the video on the macdev site.

What I can tell you about the Borg is that it is very light and small. With a conquest it doesn't weigh much.
It has 2 balldetends, which ensures that a forcefed hopper like the Halo is working. The new versions have a new board with debounce settings, which is similar to the equalizer board technique the Intimidators are using.

Furthermore it has a breakbeam ACE. Whenever you want a marker with a good Anti Chop Eye System, go get a breakbeam. It has it's advantages compared to the Angels Sensi or COPS, aswell as to reflective eyes.

Well what else, oh yeah it is Cockerthreaded which means that you're allowed to use Cocker barrels. Cockerthreading is very dispersed amongst today's markers and you will have the chance of selecting from a vast amount of barrels.

Afaik the new Borgs have a clamped feedneck, which allows you to tighten your loader into the feed without sanding it down. Certainly an advantage.

That's it for now, hope it helped.

Camo, go with Ben's assessment as he is not sponsored or employed by Mac Dev.

We have in the South Australian league seen only a first version of the cyborg in action (on my team). It was certainly ok but it didnt rock our socks off. We are looking to see them be put to the test in the league this year.

The AC Sonics are very good products. Our team has 4 of them and they work a treat.

[Deadeye]

JJJ it didn't have the new board in it back then did it? I dont think it did try it with the new board.

Ben I did state a few of the reasons why I think its really good. Basically I think its easier to say name a marker thats better, and I cant. There are lots of good makers out there life 04 Timmies and 03 SHockers, Dm4s but most are riddled with problems and need lots of aftermarket parts and fine turning them to get them running at best and even then I dont think any of them are as good as Borg. Alias Timmy might be close if they hadn't taken the WAS out of it and replaced it with a slower board, but I have a feeling they have other problems aside from Speed with ram and detents.

[ben@pbhub.de]

Ben I did state a few of the reasons why I think its really good. Basically I think its easier to say name a marker thats better, and I cant. There are lots of good makers out there life 04 Timmies and 03 SHockers, Dm4s but most are riddled with problems and need lots of aftermarket parts and fine turning them to get them running at best and even then I dont think any of them are as good as Borg. Alias Timmy might be close if they hadn't taken the WAS out of it and replaced it with a slower board, but I have a feeling they have other problems aside from Speed with ram and detents.


You see, you can do it buddy :D ;)


JJJ it didn't have the new board in it back then did it? I dont think it did try it with the new board.

Old board and only 1 balldetend. Even James and Burke said they were not satisfied with it back then.

[JJJ]

JJJ it didn't have the new board in it back then did it? I dont think it did try it with the new board..

No it was one of the very first. Am looking forward to seeing its upgraded effort.

[GAV WA]

I don't know how anyone can compare anything to a DM4 or a new Timmy when I'm pretty there isn't even one of either in the country. Too many people take what they here elsewhere as gospel then try to feed it on here like they know what they're talking about.
The cyborg is a new marker that not too many people have had for a long enough time to really give an exact answer to the question but the first responses from people who've bought them is that they are equal to any other high end marker available.

[Mary101]

sonic hurricanes are a good marker for a beginer or someone on a budget...

they run c02, have an electronic frame vertical feed, shoot fast and accurately etc

we have 3 at top gun at the momement and we going are to get alot more...

one vice... the vertical feeds are tight and have no adjustment and are also screwed down, not welded

Damo

Mac Dev are remedying that problem as we speak, also if you know some one who has a lathe and a bit knowledge, you can make a new one, I did with some heavy duty plastic to fit my egg, just to see if I could do it (with a bit of help from my father), it works well not sure how durable it will be but fit ok. Oh and for the record, I'm not an air smith my father is not an air smith, we make no claims just because we can make a feed neck doesn't mean anything, so no funny ideas

[Toopy]

posted this elsewhere and figure it is relavant
after using one in nz for the tourney all I can say is that Gimmie,gimmie,gimmie I want one. I shot a brand new timmy, shocker and angel while I was over there and the cyborg rocks them all into the ground, In my opinion I would buy a cyborg any day before owning any of the afore mentioned guns. Walking the trigger on the borg is absolutely amazing It's like it knows you want to shoot fast, the new board is so much better than the old one. The version of the borg I used wasn't the double detent one however I had no problem at all with my Halo B. The weight and balance of the marker is also excellent, it was so easy to swing around, hold and fire.
Accuracy is amazing and I havent seen a open bolt marker with accuracy equaling a cocker ever! long baling with them is an absolute pleasure. Most of the games I was shooting 9 pods and a fully loaded halo B from a 68/4500 filled to 3200 and I still had enough air left to go another pod or 2 easily. Build quality as usual from macdev is outstanding, everything comes apart and goes together smoothly. The timmy i was having a look at the bolt was so tight inside the marker that it had scratches on it from removal, then had to be put back in from the breach of the marker ( pretty dodgey if you ask me). Saving right now so I can have a borg to call my own. Hope this is helpfull.

P.S. Mini how can you possibly comment on a marker if you have never even picked one up, looked at and shot it. Also did you think that maybe he used to think that the ir3 etc was the best, but now he believe's they have been outdone buy the BORG, which is definatley true.

[Deadeye]

thanks Toopy thats right, I think when Speed came out it was the best, then A4 then 04 alias, but now Borg. Oh and Gav testimonials from everyone I know whos shot one(ive shot one too) confirm that these things own. As to Dm4's and stuff like that, I visit a few forums which are always good scources of info and by asking round on their because I was looking at getting a dm4 the general consensus was that they had issues, and different people had seen and had different problems with them, Timmies are so popular now that the problems they have are widely known just like the 03's. A guy I speak to who tested the Omen way becore they came out to give feedback to pmi or whoever makes them used a Dm4 a few times and told me about how they weren't all the were cracked up to be also. The guns all have commonly known floors its not easy to make a perfect gun, but as of yet no problems at all with the Borgs.

[Camo]

The guns all have commonly known floors its not easy to make a perfect gun, but as of yet no problems at all with the Borgs.


Dead Eye mate your perfectly right, every gun on the market is not perfect thats why theres some many guns, You see some much, people bagging this and bagging that, when really it comes down to personally choice. Ok so some guns are better, but when you are talking about high end markers, they are really good guns, its just a matter of choice. Thanks to everyone giving light on the borg, it sounds like a perfect gun for me, especially starting out, its cheaper and works a dream from the sounds of it, it may not be the ultimate gun, but it is still a good gun.

P.S it take all the fun out of the game if every one had the same gun...well almost ;)

[Jamie_Cracker]

I will give you guys the low down on alll the brand new stuff like dm4's etc when i get back from canada as i am going to shoot all the latest stuff there

[Camo]

Have a good time over there, Jamie. for all of us stuck here :(

[Mary101]

don't go toe to toe with the fauna like I did, bears are the least of your problems, the squirrels will flush you out with grenades and shoot the crap out of you. :p

[JJJ]

Mac Dev are remedying that problem as we speak, also if you know some one who has a lathe and a bit knowledge, you can make a new one, I did .......

Dont you void the warranty if you take your own lather to it!

And Gav is on the money for me. These markers have only been on the market for a few months and have yet to be put to a season long test on the tournament circuits.

This will help identify long-term issues and help make the marker better as has been the case with all the other markers used in top competition.

And I am looking forward to shooting an upgraded version because the first edition was not that special, it was nice, but nothing special.

[Mary101]

[QUOTE=JJJ]Dont you void the warranty if you take your own lather to it!QUOTE]


only if you touch the original marker parts JJJ, the created feed neck was made from entirely new material (heavy duty plastics), but then I could be wrong...

[Deadeye]

The Borgs have been in testing for a fair while now to iron out any faults before they went into production. The mark 1's had nothing wrong with them, the mark 2's are just an upgraded version, really no kinks that had to be ironed out just easy improvements.

[ben@pbhub.de]

The ability of using a Halo is a major improvement for me, which is why I think that adding a 2nd balldetent is a major upgrade.

[James]

deadeye is right we have had the borg in testing for quite some time now, just because you havn't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't been around! we test everything rigorously before realesing it. and if something does go wrong we are here to stand behind our products and fix them, just take the free upgrades for example. as for the lathe question adding a feed tube will not void a warranty, messing with internals and body cuts by unauthorised people will.

[Mary101]

so I guess milling out the air chamber to make the balls go further than a cocker at 240 Fps is totally out of the question :D

[Sikosis]

@macdev - does that mean you will be working on a solution for the vert feed neck issue and eggs like the problem that Mary101 had ?

[BIG P NZ]

Hey James, what is the thread on the Cyborg vert feed tube anyway, are you going to supply the grip type at any stage, cheers Peter

[Blobby]

paintball kingdon in the us have a grip vert feed for the borg.....think mac will be getting some of them in...

[ben@pbhub.de]

http://www.paintballkingdom.com/ProductImages/TMPBKClampRiseL.jpg

http://pbhub.de/portal/pics/img/borgfeed.jpg

:)

I think it looks shitty though. I would love a nice CCM no rise.

[James]

ben - the pbk clamping low rise is the best made to date!

big p - we will be holding a limited number of these in stock for australia and new zealand if you would like to order one.

sikosis - we will have sonic feed tubes for the hurricance coming of machines by this time next week, then they will have to be annodised, they will be similar to the feed tube that came stock on sonic bm2k's with an o-ring in it.

[BIG P NZ]

James, consider this post an order for a new vert feed, send when you can , you know how to bill me, also the upgrade ram and sub plate, cheers Peter.

[Deadeye]

i ordered one too...yayyy :bigparty:

[ticker]

come on guys there has to be a bad point some were they can't be that perfect

[James]

no problem pete will let you know as soon as they get in, i will check our records to see if your gun went out with the new ram and subplate.

[Sikosis]

Any update on the feed necks for the Hurricanes ?

[Hideous]

ben - the pbk clamping low rise is the best made to date!

big p - we will be holding a limited number of these in stock for australia and new zealand if you would like to order one.
.


I want a clamping one on my Cyborg too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont want to spend 30 minutes sanding down another HaloB

[James]

sonic hurricane feed tube are being annoed at the moment and the calmping rise for the borg will be available in 1 week or sooner, i will post in the members lounge when they are ready.

[Deadeye]

:cry: i sanded my Halo down 2 days ago. Oh well didn't take much sanding.

[BIG P NZ]

Just send one when here James, you know how to bill me,cheers Peter

[Sikosis]

cheers on the quick update macdev

[Mary101]

the voice of macdev has spoken :bow: ...

[Hideous]

the voice of macdev has spoken :bow: ...

nahh give him stick.. come on.. gotta poke'm throughh the fence occasionally

[Sikosis]

Wouldn't mind getting one of those feed necks to try out my Egg before Bundy, so if you could let us know what's the go asap that would be appreciated.

[Camo]

Its seems their've upgrade the site with new pics, showing the cyborg 04, give it a check out.

[dono]

any of you guys in nsw aus. as i too have been wanting to get my hands on one. with the current laws i just dont think it will be possible. any solutions.

thanks

[Zeb]

Well Im pleased to say im a proud owner of a BORG and I couldn't be happier the quality is amazing , light, straight and dammmmmm fast even with my lousey trigger finger I cant wait to eat some angels :)

ohh and i mounted a Warp feed for a laugh and it cranks :) think i'll leave it on

[Sikosis]

I heard that Mary101 has got his feed neck for his hurricane - anymore word on this Macdev ?

Most importantly, will they be available at the Bundy tourney this w/e ???

[Mary101]

I heard that Mary101 has got his feed neck for his hurricane - anymore word on this Macdev ?

Most importantly, will they be available at the Bundy tourney this w/e ???


abase your self in the direction of the Macdev Company factory, and the powers that be that own the company may look upon you kindly :bow: .

[Crazy]

abase your self in the direction of the Macdev Company factory, and the powers that be that own the company may look upon you kindly :bow: .
What's that movie called......"There's something about Mary" :D
We you guys and gals get to catch up with Mary at Bundy and ask him about the Huricane after he tags you with it :p

[Mary101]

What's that movie called......"There's something about Mary" :D
We you guys and gals get to catch up with Mary at Bundy and ask him about the Huricane after he tags you with it :p

yes people I am the Male equivlent of Cameron Diaz :D and no I did not have a date to the high school formal...
hey question how low a pressure can the Hurricane run on before it's starts losing performance (Rate of fire slowing down due to the nature of the blow back design)?