Revo + Egg 2 Board or Z Board ???

[minihux]

Hi i was wondering does any one now if u can take the guts out of a Egg 2 or the new Z Board for the Egg's ( 23BPS it will fit at ) and place them in a Revo and then hock up inteli feed.

Consdering new options.

Im not sure about a Halo i know there good and all but they seem a bit pricey.

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x

[ben@pbhub.de]

Sorry to tell you the truth, but an Egg will NEVER feed 23 bps, because it is not forcefed.
A Halo could do it, but an Eggo is still 80% gravity fed.

[TRENT]

Why dont you just run the egg with Z Board rather than trying to gut one and fit into the intelli feed? And No I seriously doubt you could get it into a Intelli Feed cause of the way egg is designed with feed neck at front and rest behind it compared to standard hoppers with feedneck in middle.

[Tom]

the servo motor will fit but you would i reckon you would have buckleys of getting the electronics in . Can you even out shoot the egg and will you ever do it in a game (Prop not ) . I would not bother

[Deadeye]

Eggs can feed 22bps with Z board in. Ive seen it. They are Force Fed.

[minihux]

Eggs are not really force feed.....they are like half force and half gravity due to the way they are designed..........the new Z boards will feed at 23BPS......or as Deadeye said 22BPS its proven.

i dont out shoot my hopper i just want some thing that every time i go to play i wont be afraid of it snapping.

and have u ever throught what dynasty are using? they have these new beaut angels thats shoot 20BPS + and half of them are using Revo's and i doubt they they are normal Revo's they would some special board or something....cause those Revo's seem to feed very good and i dont see an inteli feed cable from the hopper to the marker.

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x

[minihux]

Just been speakling with me old man.......

i really dont thing there is no 100% force feed hopper out on the market yet.......now the halo force the balls to the feed neck put the pulls have to fall down the neck using gravity and with the Eggs the ball gets forced to the neck as well but still has to use gravity for the balls to drop.

the only hopper that would be 100% force feed is the Q Loader becuase the balls get forced from the hopper and all the way down the neck becuase its spring loaded.

sorry if im wrong but i really think that the Halo is not 100% force feed either.

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x

[Deadeye]

the Dynasty revvies, they are just standard 12 volt revvies with X boards, no special board, even if they did wouldn't help because balls can only fall at 13-14bps thanks to gravity strength, so would have to be force fed to go any quicker.

[Jamie_Cracker]

doesnt one of dynasty use an egg

[antsman]

re;halos not being force fed,,, afaik they are, as the catchcup forces the balls down the feed tube and sometimes , past your detents, angels need two, and timmies need harder ones to stop barrell being filled with balls...

[Bozo]

anyone here that says they know what Dynasty or anyone else uses is stretching the truth...unless you know and play with these guys you dont know sheeit.

Z code halos have a motor that loads up a coil spring that is connected to the paddle and activated by an eye/beam in the neck....therefore there is pressure on the stack at all times.
When the rof exceeds the potential in that spring you have direct drive via the motor, it is beyond this point (about16-17bps) that ppl have issues if their detents etc cant cope.

With regard to eggs feeding at 23 bps unless you have seen this with your own eyes be skeptical as noone I know has got more than 17-18bps.

finally all loaders run differently dependent on.. what gun they are on... the amount of blowback etc

all fact no brag

[minihux]

So you are saying that the Halos push the ball down the feed neck.....not just push them to the feed neck i mean the hopper is actually pusing them all the time down the neck, so there is no bit of gravitiy use in the feed neck process?

the Q Loader pushes the ball the whole time if there was no gravity this thing could still pump balls out a 30BPS. Because it 100% force feed.

With these Eggs running at 23BPS i believe that 100% because u come up with a new idea spend money making the new boards only for them not to feed 23BPS and today we i had to get rid of paint from my hopper into a bag i could believe that it was running 16-17+.

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x

[sponger]

Why not just intelli feed a egg

Check the URL Below

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=91665&highlight=egg

[Yzo]

and have u ever throught what dynasty are using? they have these new beaut angels thats shoot 20BPS + and half of them are using Revo's and i doubt they they are normal Revo's they would some special board or something....cause those Revo's seem to feed very good and i dont see an inteli feed cable from the hopper to the marker.



thats true.. looks like the back players use eggs though.

i just bought a new revo.

[minihux]

YZO get intelli feed for it it will be the best thing for a Revo........

Revo = Best hopper = hard plastic and simple design = i never had one thing break on mine ever.

u can buy a WAS board for them some where cause they dont make em no more but u will get 16BPS but u will go through batteries like no tommorow.

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x

[minihux]

And i might look into an intelli feed Egg 2

thanks

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x

[Deadeye]

the turbo rev boards supposedly make revvies feed at 16bps, but I looked at their site and the results of testing show that they max at 13. something.

and Bozo I think its common jknowledge that Dynasty dont have special boards and even if they did it means nothing because revies aren't force fed and they will always max at what ever gravity can drop the balls at (13-14bps) I have a friend who is pro player in U.S and he is good mates with most of the guys on Dynasty and Ive asked him before and he said the ones with revies only have standard X boards in them.

[minihux]

gravity will only feed at 13 - 14 BPS they say.

would it make an difference if u had all the other balls pressing the ones beolow them down the feed neck aswell........that would create a little bit more force. and make it easier for the paddle to collect them. plus there are alot of cool things i know about that u can do to a paddle to make them grab balls better.

the WAS boards do feed at 16BPS cause my dad had a WAS board on his Revo for his Nasty Impulse and it feed pretty damn quick. the only reason he switched to Egg was the batteries. and i think WAS has a video clip of there board in action on there site. download that its show how quick it is.

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x

[Beaker]

Deadeye, who is your friend? When i was in Miami, Dynasty were using Xboard revs with Egg impellar's.

As for TurboRevs, they do not, under any circumstances feed at 16bps. If you believe WAS's hype about any of their products then you'll think the earth is flat too.

Halo's are force fed as long as there is a ball stack in the neck which transfers the tension of the coiled spring down the stack (that's why when you take them off a gun upside down 4 or 5 balls spring out). Yes, for the last few balls in the hopper then there is no ball stack to hold under tension, and then it's only as good as an Egg there. So it's kinda 99% force fed :)

As for 23 bps out of an Egg :D :D :D that's a good one, I have had 3 Zboards and on gun they still can't go over 14 true bps.

So then, how fast do you think you shoot and what's your set up?

[GAV WA]

Mini, it would be easy to intelli feed an egg, you do it the same way you do any other hopper, rip the board out and put a relay in it. As long as the marker you are using has the suitable signal from it to turn it on and off. Put a relay in it though, don't do it the way some do which drains the batteries in the marker, put a relay in and keep using batteries in the marker.
In fact I think this would make a pretty sick hopper from an egg, because the paddles can flip past the balls as it spins so with intelli feed it would work in a similar fashion to a z board and keep putting pressure on the stack.
As for rate from an egg2, I've seen and used many y board eggs and thay have been able to sustain quite long strings at 15 and 16 bps which is more than you need.

[minihux]

yes i throught that the intelli feed would be good aswell and its easy to do i intelli feed my old revo with my automag.

i read up about it on a couple forums and some people said it actually made there egg2 feed slower, some said it made it feed faster and then some said they did not notice a change.

its to do with the speed of you paddle how fast it spins when u pull your trigger people found setting it at a lower speed gave it more time to let the ball drop into the paddle and gave it a more consistant feed rate.

becuase they were saying if its at full speed it was hitting the balls around and the paddle was not catch them fully so it left gaps in your stream. you could either get a better paddle mod your original one or slow down the paddle speed.

i personaly think it would work great. but mine seems to be feed fine.

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x

[Beaker]

"I've seen and used many y board eggs and thay have been able to sustain quite long strings at 15 and 16 bps "

On what gun/setup and what told you the ROF?

[Deadeye]

i used an A4 the other day and was consistently outshooting a Evo with Z board, and with y board also, and was no way i was shooting 22bps. 16 maximum. I do think the Z board feeds faster though. When you get an Egg with a y board and one with z board and hold them next to each other and let them dump a pod out the z board always finishes first.

Beaker you wouldn'y know this guy in the u.s I know, hes played for Bushwackers and various other teams though, he never mentioned what impellars they were using.

an Egg Impellar? eggs just have the big wheel correct, that wont fit in a Revy?

[GAV WA]

The markers that i seen and had doing 15-16 with eggs are angel ir3's and a4's, now before you start I know the a4 only reads the closest two but the version 1 of the software doesn't and the ir3 doesn't either, they read the total over a full second. And if you still don't believe it ask anyone who was at the hookem cup, ask them about some of the lines coming out of the a4's there. Forget what a board says they could see it with their own eyes, or put a loader into Dmans a4 and watch how quick he empties it. I know what you're saying, I don't believe anything a company says about a product either, the only z board I've seen so far was slower than a Y board, no way would it feed 20+ and I've also seen guys buy brand new eggs that have just sucked. They are very inconsistent, you never see two spin at the same speed whether it's eggs, halos, revys whatever. But I am lucky to have a pretty good egg2 in my bag.
The thing about the discussion on gravity feed and the ball stack remember that you have a bolt under the ball and then when it comes back, even with a stack off paint the stack is stationary so when it starts to move each one is working only under it's own gravity as gravity and acceleration is not effected by mass. Gravity = 9.8 metres per second, per second.
The reason gravity feed is commonly given a max of 13 bps is easy to work out if you want.
Distance travelled by an object under the force of gravity from a stationary plan; Distance = 0.5(9.8ms/s)
So lets work it out on an angel for the sake of this exercise.
1 / 13 (13bps) = 0.0769 seconds
minus dwell (0.012)= 0.0649
minus bolt to and fro (0.007 for the average angel) 0.0579
So 0.5 (9.8 x 0.0569 x 0.0569) = 0.01642
0.01642 x 1000 (convert from metres to millimetres) = 16.42 millimetres a ball will travel in the time a bolt is back on an angel doing 13bps, the average ball is about 16.8 mm so you would probably just squeeze 13 bps into said angel if you talk nice to it. Hope this helps, uumm, someone

[GIBB]

Dynasty uses both eggs and revs.
Cheers
GIBB

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[minihux]

Beaker you wouldn'y know this guy in the u.s I know, hes played for Bushwackers and various other teams though, he never mentioned what impellars they were using.

an Egg Impellar? eggs just have the big wheel correct, that wont fit in a Revy?

i think you could get it to fit in a revy with some modding to it..........we have made some pretty cool paddles for our revys back in the day.

- peace /\/\ i n i h u x

[Jamie_Cracker]

holy crap gav that took me back to school and physics and engineering science,i got scared and my head started hurting agian
nice work gav it is good that someone is actually backing up their claims with some evidence