Offset Drop Forward [Archive] - Billspaintball Forums

eukanuba

26-11-2003, 01:18 PM

I have noticed that on most of the dropforwards that the hole alignment is straight, while on some markers ( i.e. spyders ) the hole alignment is diagonal..

Is it simply a matter of drilling a hole in the frame of the marker ( which i dont really want to do to my nice new marker - that, and If the hole expands it will ruin the entire grip frame as the holes will be REALLY tight and close together.. which means you just cant just helicoil the hole ) or is there a special adaptor ?

I dont really feel like butchering a nice Drop or an electronic grip frame in the hope it might work.. dont want it to get a ghetto mod look either..

I have even contemplated removing the ASA and expansion chamber ( now that I am running hpa ) and going via stainless remote direct to the marker.. it however looks a bit funky and throws the weight forward on the marker which gives you a sore forearm after a couple of rounds..

I think I am going to have to post a pic to explain what I have actually done..

Suggestions ?

- Euk.

Bazza

26-11-2003, 01:29 PM

That pic you spoke of :D

eukanuba

26-11-2003, 02:10 PM

That pic you spoke of :D

Sorry mate, I am working on the mainframe at the moment.. from a wyse terminal.. cant jack in my camera.. will do it when I get home tonight..

I know you all love your pictures of markers.. old and crappy or new and shiny.. bring on the pics !

- Euk.

GAV WA

26-11-2003, 02:36 PM

You can buy drop forwards with the diagonal holes allready in them just for this problem. Don't drill the frame, why drill or modify a very expensive part when you can mod a cheap old drop forward or in this case buy what you need.

Vladimir

26-11-2003, 02:41 PM

Go to www.ppba.com.au

or http://www.ppba.com.au/DropForward.htm
there's a Spyder Adapter Block that allows you to use a normal bottomline on your Spyder. $20.00

Best way.

eukanuba

26-11-2003, 05:02 PM

Go to www.ppba.com.au

or http://www.ppba.com.au/DropForward.htm
there's a Spyder Adapter Block that allows you to use a normal bottomline on your Spyder. $20.00

Best way.

Or from the looks of it - but a complete universal DF for about $80-

- Euk.

GAV WA

26-11-2003, 06:16 PM

eukanuba

26-11-2003, 06:18 PM

Well there's another option, grab a piece of 8mm ally and make a little adaptor that screws up to your frame and has two tapped holes 3/4 inch apart to screw a standard drop forward up onto. Anno it black and it'll even look sweet.

Will 8mm ally be strong enough to hold a bottle ?

I have muzza's old HPA bottle.. its an air america 3000/88ci bottle..

I guess I could always make 2 and leave 1 spare for game day ! :)

Thanks for the idea gav !

- Euk.

Bazza

26-11-2003, 06:25 PM

Dont forget this pic we spoke of euk :evil

eukanuba

26-11-2003, 07:05 PM

But I dont have any funky gift wrap paper with oranges on them ?!?!?

Whatever will I do ?

Ok, I am bored - going home now..

- Euk.

Rainman

26-11-2003, 10:29 PM

got any pics??????????

GAV WA

27-11-2003, 01:39 AM

8mm will last forever dude, you just counter bore the diagonal holes to suit the two 10 x 32 UNF screws and drill and tap the two straight holes. If you want I'll make one today for you. I've got all the gear here at home.
I might even post some pics.

Bazza

27-11-2003, 12:15 PM

Somebody say pics?? Especially home made bits and pieces, how exciting :bigparty: :angel: :bigparty:

eukanuba

27-11-2003, 12:29 PM

Somebody say pics?? Especially home made bits and pieces, how exciting :bigparty: :angel: :bigparty:

You an your pics.. crazy kids !

I will have em up today, going to dicksmiths ( well, sending mah girlie ) to pickup a CF card reader to usb... my cable is bunked..

Sorry Bazza, they will be up tonight..

- Euk.

TIMMAH

27-11-2003, 01:14 PM

i can make something up at bills, i mean at work for you euk ;)

eukanuba

27-11-2003, 02:09 PM

i can make something up at bills, i mean at work for you euk ;)

What you going to make for me ?

You cant make a dropforward with paperclips robbo...

Man, I cant believe you were drinkin last night when I got home... you should save it for friday night...

Got any paint left spare ? I wanna practice around the new building sites nextdoor...

- Euk.

TIMMAH

27-11-2003, 02:23 PM

knackers told me to

GAV WA

27-11-2003, 03:05 PM

eukanuba

27-11-2003, 04:45 PM

Here's a pic for everyone to look at, you clowns.
Not the best quality pic though.
Euk, don't go shooting around building sites, especially right now as it's in the works to become legal, plus it's just not cool.

Nah, was J/K about the building sites...

Our family has a 110ha farm in toodyay.. I can run for hours without anyone for miles.. thats the best place to play - in your own backyard ! ~:)

- Euk.

BIG ROB

27-11-2003, 05:42 PM

Did you make that Gav? looks good and should do the trick.

eukanuba

27-11-2003, 05:50 PM

Did you make that Gav? looks good and should do the trick.

Yeah, I was thinkin that too.. all shiny !

If you can do that with a block of ally.. what can you do in terms of a Drop Forward ??

I like shiny things..

- Euk..
( bored and at work )

GAV WA

27-11-2003, 07:21 PM

Yeah just cut it out of a piece I had in the shed. Can now mount any drop forward straight up to it.

Jamie_Cracker

27-11-2003, 08:27 PM

GAV is my hero

Bazza

27-11-2003, 08:39 PM

OOoohhhh....Did you guys see the pic :bigparty:

Seriuosly tho...It looks pretty good for just something "ya whipped up in yer shed"..

eukanuba

28-11-2003, 03:20 AM

Somebody say pics?? Especially home made bits and pieces, how exciting :bigparty: :angel: :bigparty:

Hopefully these attachments make it to this post.. theres 3 of em..

- Euk.

Bazza

28-11-2003, 10:05 AM

:cry: They did not make it Euk :cry:

eukanuba

28-11-2003, 10:08 AM

:cry: They did not make it Euk :cry:

Found the problem

pictures must be < 102400 bytes... so basically - less than 100k..

DAMN ! you cant get any detail into anything around 100k !

these are all about 200 k.. but when I drop em, they look pixelated and crappy !

PLEASE HELP ! Feed the need for pics !

- Euk.

MelonFarmer

09-12-2003, 10:32 AM

Ek, I can host your pics if you email em to me.

Big Gav, I've just tried to get three different brands of spyder adapters from the states and they're all out of stock.

How could I motivate you to make up 2 more of those useful glittery bits?

Action John

09-12-2003, 01:08 PM

I have drop forwards in stock that have all the holes for Spyder and normal guns.

Call if you still need one. 02-9679-0011

MelonFarmer

09-12-2003, 07:10 PM

No no, I'm not after a drop forward.

I have a maxflow air system to connect to the bottom of the trigger frame.

All I need is two 9mm thick bits of alluminium with 4 holes in each.

Sikosis

10-12-2003, 06:36 AM

yeh I'm the same as bongle ... can you assist Action John ? :bow:

Action John

10-12-2003, 08:09 AM

yeh I'm the same as bongle ... can you assist Action John ? :bow:

Yeah i can get you some from the states or make something like Gav did. Call me on 02-9679-0011.

Sikosis

10-12-2003, 10:50 AM

I know we tried to get some from the US but they said they were out of stock and didn't know when they'd have them.

MelonFarmer

11-12-2003, 12:13 AM

Yes well we've made some enquiries to some very happy little xmas elves.

Hopefully Santa will be generous. :D

Action John

11-12-2003, 10:07 AM

Yes well we've made some enquiries to some very happy little xmas elves.

Hopefully Santa will be generous. :D

Yes I can get them. I will try to have them before Christmas :D but I think they will probably arrive just after. :cry:

MelonFarmer

11-12-2003, 04:23 PM

Thats great mate - the postage is always a pisser around xmas anyhow.

My only concern with using a drop forward over an adapter block, is the drop forward will reduce the overall marker length.

We have restrictions of 75cm here in Qld... :rolleyes:

Sikosis

11-12-2003, 04:49 PM

http://www.ppba.com.au/SpyderAdapterBlock.jpg

We're specifically after the Spyder Block though ... as apposed to the Drop Forward mentioned in the thread. But if it does the same job and it meets the QLD restrictions ... sweet.

MelonFarmer

13-12-2003, 01:23 AM

Really clear picture here...

http://www.doropaintball.com/AB1038101EQuick/shopexd.asp?id=6187

Elfboy

13-12-2003, 12:36 PM

so now theres a lil hellspawn jnr now????

and hellspawns bitch????

spiders BAH!!!

lol :p

Hey guys it would take yas like 1/2 hr max to make one of those :)

MelonFarmer

13-12-2003, 02:07 PM

Hey can I use your cocker as the lump of metal I drill the holes into?

minihux

13-12-2003, 03:15 PM

so now theres a lil hellspawn jnr now????

and hellspawns bitch????

spiders BAH!!!

lol :p

Hey guys it would take yas like 1/2 hr max to make one of those :)

lol.................fully the spyder gang. Now hellspawn has people to back him up when he says his spyder is the best. But his spyder is quite fast u have to admit.

1/2 hr max......we could make one of those things in about 5 mins down in our lab....lol

peace minihux

HellSpawn

13-12-2003, 03:29 PM

Bongles Spyder pull's 13bps out of the box and dahm straight to (at half the cost of mine).
Wait till I do some work to it. :evil

HellSpawn

13-12-2003, 03:33 PM

So Mini... how much for one of those Spyder conversion plates???

Sikosis

13-12-2003, 03:37 PM

yeh seriously ... how much ?

minihux

13-12-2003, 08:23 PM

is that what there called.........?

dont know yet have not made one would have to speak to you nathen to sort out what needs doing after that its a simple process.........

will be able to get them in any color u want including 1 color fades and dust and high gloss finish... :)

peace minihux

minihux

13-12-2003, 08:31 PM

Bongles Spyder pull's 13bps out of the box and dahm straight to (at half the cost of mine).
Wait till I do some work to it. :evil

why wouldn't u just put one of those trigger frame on what we got ya Hellspawn.......it made yours shoot 20BPS....wait till u see your bushy Hellspawn......it shoots faster then any angel.

peace minihux